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Old 06-12-2002, 06:34 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Yeah, you're right no need to talk about it, in "Slipper"'s other thread you tried selling them to him like you had them already. If those emails are correct it just shows a little of your dishonesty about having them to potential buyers.

You are ignorant too. I never tried to sell him anything. He kept IMing me and asking me what I wanted. He wouldn't leave me alone about the stupid things.

I am forced to repeat myself again but this is utter BS because I faithfully assumed what I paid for would be in my hands by then. He never put a fu*king bid on anything and now he's trying to talk trash. I did absolutely nothing wrong he's just pissed and doesn't know how to deal with it.
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Old 06-12-2002, 07:03 PM   #42 (permalink)
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You are ignorant too. I never tried to sell him anything. He kept IMing me and asking me what I wanted. He wouldn't leave me alone about the stupid things.
Yeah I may be ignorant, but I'm honest. Sure you did not try to sell him anything. Thats why you placed an ad in Ebay and if someone did bid on your item-they would have been locked into that sale for an item that who knows what condition they are in. Just b/c Nx2kridah said they were new, does not mean you advertise that.
I can gurantee, that if someone did bid on your item that you would not have opened this thread about slow service from Nx2kridah or the USPS.
I'm done I think I got my point across.
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Old 06-12-2002, 07:14 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I can gurantee, that if someone did bid on your item that you would not have opened this thread about slow service from Nx2kridah or the USPS.
I'm done I think I got my point across.
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Sorry but you are wrong.

Do you even want to know why I wanted to sell them? Because I'm 90 percent sure third gear is broken. The money I lost ($600) I could have used to buy a new tranny. So, wanting to fix my car ASAP, I decided to list them for sale before I actually had them to speed things up a week or so. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I wasn't going to get anything and people would actually be pissed because I go ripped off.

So I just lost $600, have a broken transmission, and I'm getting bitched at for it. Pretty ridiculous.
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Old 06-12-2002, 07:24 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Storm88000, before you decide to sell something make sure you have it in your hands..I would be pissed also if I was interested in something that was being advertised, and for what ever reason they backed out...sorta false advertising....Just my $.02



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I did absolutely nothing wrong he's just pissed and doesn't know how to deal with it. [/quote]
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Old 06-12-2002, 07:28 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Yes I guess I learned my lesson. I dismissed the small chance I was being ripped off and it came back to hit me.
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Old 06-13-2002, 03:01 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Yeah, I agree. No money was exchanged though, so this really isn't a big issue. I can understand how someone could have gotten annoyed, but nobody lost anything nor gained anything. Storm, however, may have just lost $600 bucks. Hopefully, it'll work out for him.

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Storm88000, before you decide to sell something make sure you have it in your hands..I would be pissed also if I was interested in something that was being advertised, and for what ever reason they backed out...sorta false advertising....Just my $.02
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Old 06-13-2002, 04:18 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Once again to be fair to NX2kRidah I will post an update.

I emailed him this afternoon and asked for my money back. He replied at midnight tonight and said he will call me tommorow to clear this up.

If he does I will surely let you guys know. I don't want anyone to 100 percent assume yet he ripped me off, even as much as it may seem. He has a chance to redeem himself.
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Old 06-13-2002, 02:27 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Another update

The mail just came and still nothing, but I'm not really expecting anything.

Josh (NX2kRidah) called me today and said he would send me some of my money back within 2 weeks and the rest afterwards.

I'll of course keep updating this as the situation develops.
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Old 06-13-2002, 02:36 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Well IMO I don't think you've waited long enough to get your money back. Yes I agree if he ripped you you should get your money back but, it IS possible that it can take 3 weeks or longer, you need to go through the Post Office and ask them about that. NX2KRidah did fudge by not sending it with insurance and other good stuff. If that was me, I would just come back the next day with more money to make sure the item got sent out with insurance. By the way, if sending something you sold via USPS Priority (or Express) you should always send it with enough Insurance and with Signature Confirmation (or at least Delivery Confirmation).

And another thing you should NEVER sell (or try to sell) something you don't actually have already . You never know what can happen with your supply or with the methods that it will arrive to you.

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Old 06-13-2002, 03:22 PM   #50 (permalink)
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All I gotta say is he ripped you off. If I shipped off something weeks ago, and the guy is demanding his money back. HELL F*CKIN NO. I shipped that package off. It is out of my hands. If it indeed got lost, I will take matters into my own hands and settle it with UPS or whatever. I would not just offer to pay the guy back. No way! The fact that he is so eager to pay you back after you made this post means he's SCARED. He thought he could rip you off. I say you DON'T take the money back YET. Use local authorities to tighten the noose around his neck a bit. Have local authorities show up at his house for mail fraud. Just to ask him a few questions. Teach this f*cker a lesson. Don't just let him go.
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Old 06-13-2002, 03:44 PM   #51 (permalink)
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All I gotta say is he ripped you off. If I shipped off something weeks ago, and the guy is demanding his money back. HELL F*CKIN NO. I shipped that package off. It is out of my hands. If it indeed got lost, I will take matters into my own hands and settle it with UPS or whatever. I would not just offer to pay the guy back. No way! The fact that he is so eager to pay you back after you made this post means he's SCARED. He thought he could rip you off. I say you DON'T take the money back YET. Use local authorities to tighten the noose around his neck a bit. Have local authorities show up at his house for mail fraud. Just to ask him a few questions. Teach this f*cker a lesson. Don't just let him go.
I couldn't agree more. The fact that he's sending you "some" of the money tells me he never shipped the cams and probably never had them in the first place.

No package shipped USPS should take more than 10 working days to be delivered in the continental US. He ripped you off and now he's trying to make amends by offering to send some of the money back. I'd be willing to stake my pink slip on it.

Teach this little prick a lesson and call the authorities. Or at least allow me to have my arms and legs guy pay this little fu*k a visit. I spoke with my guy last night and he's itching for me to give him the address.
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Old 06-13-2002, 03:51 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Jim, remind me to never mess with you. If you are at the next convention, I'll buy you a beer.
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Old 06-13-2002, 04:12 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Or at least allow me to have my arms and legs guy pay this little fu*k a visit. I spoke with my guy last night and he's itching for me to give him the address.
That is completely uncalled for. It doesn't have to resort to violence.

But can somebody from that neck of the woods get it on video?

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Old 06-13-2002, 04:34 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Well I hate to shine light on the subject. I was going to stay away from this one, But since I consider myself a pro in the world of postal art I thought that I would butt in. I run a decent size Internet Company and ship out 50-100 packages a day through our buddy's at the United States Post Office. Not to mention the 2 hours I help and watch a day. Last year alone I shipped over 3000 packages and guess how many problems I have had?? Maybe 2 and I knew about them within days after them going out. Most packages sent priority arrive within 3 days to any of the 48 states, packages sent normal 1st class can take UP to 10 business days. I have NEVER had a package take longer than 10 business days to arrive to any of my customers. I think that there is only one way for this guy to clear his record since no one here can PROVE who's at fault. All we want to see is a copy of the original receipt that says it was sent the day he claims it was. If so then we should all feel bad and blame the post office. For larger purchases I prefer COD. Usually eliminates any deadbeats.
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Old 06-13-2002, 07:45 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Why doesn't NX2kridah say anything on the subject? He didn't get banned did he? I recall something a month or so ago with him....possibly storm8800...what was this again? I forgot. But it immediately popped into my head when I read this post a few days ago.

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Old 06-13-2002, 08:03 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I agree with you guys I think, it sounds like he didn't think I would be this demanding PO'ed.

Had he really sent the C3's (and now he says he doesn't even know if they are C3's in the other post?!?!?) he wouldn't be nearly so willing to send money back because he would be losing double.

Doesn't make sense, but I will see to it that I get all my $600 back.

Jim I have his address if he trys pulling anything else.
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Old 06-13-2002, 09:15 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Just out of curiousity I looked at the USPS web site to get an idea of rates and times. For me to send something from NC to AZ, across the US, it should only take 8 days. That was based on regular or large package and the slowest shipping. However I do seem to remember looking the last time I was in the post office and seem to recall that there was a BOTTOM of the run shipping rate and the time was like 3-4 weeks. Don't quote me on that.

Also, if he did send them he should DEFINITLY gotten a reciept for the transaction. The fact that he seems to be willing to send part of the money back tells me that he didn't send them and spent the money. For that matter he may have never had them like and did the same thing you were going to do.

Also while I'm on that I understand that you did what you out of trust for another member. You guys need to lay off of Storm because all he did was got a little too trusting of another member and what he did with them was HIS business anyway. If he was the seller and something happened and the bid had gone through, the only loser on E-Bay would have been him. The other person would have just been a little dissapointed. Anyway THIS post is about him possibly getting ripped off and has ABSOLUTLY nothing to do with the other issue. Deal with whats at hand first then worry about that later.

Back on topic now sorry. Storm, the bad part here is that all you have is a "civil" issue, not a criminal case. The only thing you could do is to sue him and you would have to prove that he didn't send them and that you sent the money. He on the other hand would have to prove that you didn't send the money and that he did send the cams. You're part is easy, the post office would have records of his supossed transaction and you should have some type of record of sending the money. His could be easy if all he does is shows receipt that he did send them, as for the money part thats you vs him and you should have him there.

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Old 06-13-2002, 09:27 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Sorry dude, but this is a federal issue now. The USPS was used. State borders were passed. This is mail fraud. How is this not a criminal case? As I recall, this is a felony. Email exchanges are now permissible in a court of law as evidence. It is a legal binding contract. Josh Vasquez is a criminal. No ifs ands or buts.





>Back on topic now sorry. Storm, the bad part here is that all you have is a "civil" issue, not a criminal case. The only thing you could do is to sue him and you would have to prove that he didn't send them and that you sent the money.
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Old 06-13-2002, 09:48 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Actually ALL we know right now is that he SUPPOSEDLY sent it USPS. If he did use the USPS, that would mean that he did send it and then it would be on the USPS to figure out what happened to the package. What it sounds like is that he never sent it so nothing crossed any lines other than Storm's money. So in that respect it is not Federal. Sadly enough in the US a "deal" like this between 2 people is considered a civil issue.
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Old 06-14-2002, 02:28 AM   #60 (permalink)
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No, it is still mail fraud. He failed to deliver an item. He took a check OVER the mail system. The conditions were outlined in the emails as a legally binding contract. MAIL FRAUD.
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