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datascan, which to buy???

posted this in the turbo section. sorry to double post. just seems to make sense to post here...after-thought
calum please respond......or anyone with first hand experience. id like experienced suggestions, not theorized opinions. thanks.


http://www.blazt.biz/order/order.php

i know i need the cable and the software, but theres too many damn choices! lol

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What part are you having difficulty with, the software or the cable?

Hardware wise there are OBDI and OBDII cables in serial, USB, or PDA format. Your car, and your computer will dictate the proper choice.

On the software side, you've got Nissan Datascan, Conzult, and the Data log viewer. I'd suggest Nissan Datascan, over Conzult, and the data log viewer is optional, I've never used it, so I can't comment on it. Nissan Datascan, as well as most other Consult software programs allows you to save logs in a common format which you can then view with Excel.

There are also a few freeware Consult interface programs, such as Calumsult, ConZult Freeware, and possibly another one or two. The freeware version of Conzult may give you all you need if you're just looking for diagnostics, and reading sensors. It will also put the car in timing mode. For more features, the cable plus Nissan Datascan is a good choice. You will no be disappointed with the extra $30 you spend on the software. Do some reading on the features of the various programs so you can make an informed choice.

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thanx chris. your always good for an informed answer im in a b13, so it'd be an OBD1. i have realtime, so i already have calumsult. also i have the freeware conzult which is basically the same as calumsult. im basically looking for something that reads more in depth. my buddy just finished his turbo integra. im looking for something like the hondata...a sort of realtime tuning program. funny you mention conzult, i have yet to figure out how to put the car in timing mode with conzult. it is freeware version, so maybe the option isnt avail till purchased?

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looking back at the website...what is pda?

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Handheld organiser thingy :P. Has its own type of connector.

That's my best guess :P.
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thanx chris. your always good for an informed answer im in a b13, so it'd be an OBD1. i have realtime, so i already have calumsult. also i have the freeware conzult which is basically the same as calumsult. im basically looking for something that reads more in depth. my buddy just finished his turbo integra. im looking for something like the hondata...a sort of realtime tuning program. funny you mention conzult, i have yet to figure out how to put the car in timing mode with conzult. it is freeware version, so maybe the option isnt avail till purchased?
You have a realtime? Then you don't need the blazt cable. Am I missing something here?

For more comprehensive monitoring software, get Nissan Datascan. For tuning, use TunerPro RT (free). Also check out http://www.nistune.com, I haven't used it, so I can't give you much info on it.

To get Conzult into timing mode, click the Base Idle Adjustment button.

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To get Conzult into timing mode, click the Base Idle Adjustment button.

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ah ha...so thats why my idle gets a little screwy when i click that tab. now i know. thanx chris. i was wondering why i couldnt adjust my base idle in the base idle adjustment tab. lol.

ok then. i was misinformed. i thought the blatz took a different look at the ecu. so its just a software upgrade i need. i have tunerPro also. i have a version of datascan, but when i input my email addy for verification to get the unlock code, it tells me the email is non-recognizable. i will have to call them. thanx a bunch chris for the clarification. i hate asking "noob" questions! i struggle loooong and hard before i post something i think everyone should know. lol, you are the man!

now, if only i could get you to NH to help me find my cold idle gremlin!!! hahaha

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take a look at obd scantech before you outlay any money on nissan datascan:
http://techdiag.co.uk/obdscantech/web/pg002.html

it used to cost $, but now its free.
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hummm, i will scope it out. thanx man

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which version to download?

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i know i need the cable and the software, but theres too many damn choices! lol
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which version to download?
Echo?

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which version to download?
version 1.41 and then copy the exe file from 1.51
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i use 1.29, havent tried 1.41 yet (how is it different?)
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i use 1.29, havent tried 1.41 yet (how is it different?)

power balance was the main thing i noticed

OBD SCAN TECH (NISSAN) HISTORY
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VERSION (1.41) JUNE 13, 2007

REARRANGE ENGINE ACTIVE TEST
FIXED CONNECTING ISSUE WITH TRANS
FIXED MINOR BUG ISSUES

VERSION (1.35-1.39 BETA) - MAY 26, 2007

VOICE RECOGNITION WORDS CAN NOW BE EDITED TO YOUR CHOICE
ADDED MULTIPLE CYLINDERS CAN BE SHUTOFF AT SAME TIME
ADDED CHECK UPDATES VIA SOFTWARE
ADDED INJECTOR DUTY CYCLE (MUST CLICK LABEL TO SWITCH AND GAUGES NOT SUPPORTED)
FIXED MINOR BUG ISSUES IN VARIOUS AREAS

VERSION (1.34) - APRIL 23, 2007

ADDED VOICE RECOGNITION AND SPEECH
ADDED POWER BALANCE TEST
FIXED BASED IDLE ADJUSTMENT COMMAND BUTTONS (ON BUTTON WAS ACTUALLY OFF AND VICE VERSA)

VERSION (1.31) - MARCH 1, 2006

IMPROVED DATA PACKET PROCESSING

VERSION (1.30) - DECEMBER 26, 2006

ADDED AUTO DETECT INTERFACE
CHANGED CONNECTING LOG FILE TO APPEND
FIXED MINOR BUG ISSUES

VERSION (1.29) - MAY 09, 2006

FIXED BUG ISSUES
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no no buddy...lol. i was refering to the download scantech

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version 1.41 and then copy the exe file from 1.51
doh! haha. i DL 1.29. ah well. i will try it out tomorrow and see how i like it. thanx for the site. big help!

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got impatient, went and scoped it out just now. honestly, i really dont see what i can do with this, that i cant do with conzult. am i missing something? this really isnt what im looking for. im looking for something like hondata, or DSMlink.

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that u cant do with free conzult, or the full version? free conzult has limited sensors, cant log, no gauges, no active tests (aside from base idle thing) etc.

if your looking to do something like edit the fuel/ignition maps, thats not going to happen because they are read-only so u need a daughterboard etc to edit them
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that u cant do with free conzult, or the full version? free conzult has limited sensors, cant log, no gauges, no active tests (aside from base idle thing) etc.

if your looking to do something like edit the fuel/ignition maps, thats not going to happen because they are read-only so u need a daughterboard etc to edit them
i have realtime and use tunerPro to adjust. i guess i just dont really fully understand how to use: claumsult/conzult/scantech. i guess im just missing something, although ive spent endless time "playing" with the these programs while in my car plugged in and monitoring. what do you use to monitor and tune?

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you calum realtime has a consult port already onboard doesnt it? so why are u asking about getting a cable? have u read all the docs in calums sticky on the realtime boards?
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