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Old 05-23-2007, 01:30 PM   #161 (permalink)
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Anyone using koni's up front with GC plates? If so I have a few questions...

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Did you notice that if you compress the strut with the GC top hat (designed for their plate) bearing assembly and plate in place, the top hat hits the top of the insert before the strut bottoms? If so how did you adjust yours?

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What bolt did you use to hole the top of the strut in the GC plate. I have my old KYB AGX nut that is the same diameter as the joint in the GC plate that I would like to re-use...
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Old 05-23-2007, 01:38 PM   #162 (permalink)
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Anyone using koni's up front with GC plates? If so I have a few questions...
Did you notice that if you compress the strut with the GC top hat (designed for their plate) bearing assembly and plate in place, the top hat hits the top of the insert before the strut bottoms? If so how did you adjust yours?
If I am understanding that correcty if you had the bumpstop in place that would never happen. So there really is no problem. Unless I am not understanding the question.

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What bolt did you use to hole the top of the strut in the GC plate. I have my old KYB AGX nut that is the same diameter as the joint in the GC plate that I would like to re-use...
GC has Koni specific nuts for the car that you need.
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Old 05-23-2007, 01:59 PM   #163 (permalink)
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I called Koni just now, and I verified the thread pitch for the following part numbers:

Maxima front insert 86-2435
B14 front insert 8640-1354
B13 Front 86-2463
B13 Rear 86-2465

All of those are 12x1.25mm per Bob. I did not ask about the Spec V insert, but it is probably safe to say that it is the same.

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Old 05-23-2007, 02:05 PM   #164 (permalink)
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If I am understanding that correcty if you had the bumpstop in place that would never happen. So there really is no problem. Unless I am not understanding the question.



GC has Koni specific nuts for the car that you need.
After calling and ordering $162 in parts I realized that I already have the correct nuts. I confused them for AGX nuts, granted mine are old and looking ragged. I also ordered two new camber plate "plates" and new rear top hats just in case.
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Old 05-23-2007, 02:17 PM   #165 (permalink)
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Does anyone know if the lower perch on the Spec V shock is lower than the B14? I put B15 Konis on my 200, and when I swapped the rears, I just removed the GS sleeve and perch and installed them on the Konis. I never messed with the height, and now the rear is 1/2 inch lower than it was before.
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Old 05-23-2007, 02:29 PM   #166 (permalink)
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Does anyone know if the lower perch on the Spec V shock is lower than the B14? I put B15 Konis on my 200, and when I swapped the rears, I just removed the GS sleeve and perch and installed them on the Konis. I never messed with the height, and now the rear is 1/2 inch lower than it was before.
There is a 1/4" difference in overall length and a 1/4" difference in perch height (these measurements relative to the center of the mounting bolt hole)

That should make a 1/2" difference....
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Old 05-23-2007, 02:43 PM   #167 (permalink)
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Cool, thanks Wes. Now I just need to take care of the rusted lock screws in the perches. I'm already down a 4mm allen socket.
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:14 PM   #168 (permalink)
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Oops...how did 8611's slide in here....

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I'm sorry I didn't copy everyone else's setup. If you need a preacher to tell you what mods to put on your car, the Reverend Veilside180sx might have a suggestion.
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Old 05-23-2007, 04:50 PM   #169 (permalink)
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Oops...how did 8611's slide in here....

Nice ears on those things

Going to paint or powder coat them?
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Old 05-23-2007, 04:52 PM   #170 (permalink)
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Oops...how did 8611's slide in here....
Which 8611's are those?
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Old 05-23-2007, 05:31 PM   #171 (permalink)
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Which 8611's are those?
The ones you want.
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Old 05-23-2007, 07:30 PM   #172 (permalink)
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I both scanned and searched this thread for any mention of price.

Lets get down to money for a second.
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Ballpark price DIY: XXX
Ballpark price having them built for you: XXX (
Sling me some dollar amounts please so I can fill in the XXX's.

Is this pricing information from The Suspension Thread still accurate? Does it need to be modified, is it missing any new parts you are using?
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I can make them a variety of different ways. The breakdown is as follows. Remember this is custom work so I can do it a variety of ways. This also assumes you send me your usable stock housings.

Koni's (adjustable, but you need to take them off to do it) = $535
Install them shorter in the front= $75 (this is it for the b14)
Install all 4 into housing for the b13 housings = $125
Shorter all the way around = 150 (not needed on the b13, not possible on the b14)
Add, externally adjustable Fronts on either car = $85 extra for the pair. This allows the use of strong front springs as well. 350lb to 375lb should be ok.
Custom Mounts for GC perch (allow the use of a 10 inch front spring) = $75 per axle. Only needed up front.

So if you have a b13 and you want shorter fronts and standard rears (535+125) and you also want the externally adjustable fronts ($85) plus the custom mounts for the longer spring up front only ($75). This puts you at $820 for my work (plus shipping) and then you provide the GC setup (400 at the most). This setup is far nicer then the TEIN in ride. Plus, you can add the GC camber caster plates which give you another 3/4 inch of travel up front. A lot of people already own this GC stuff so it saves them money. Hope that helps.

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Old 05-23-2007, 09:34 PM   #173 (permalink)
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Here's another that slipped in



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They are 8611-1257 (shortest 8611)

The ones above are flanged for a S13/14 the other 3 sets I'm making right now are flanged for a B13/14.

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Old 05-23-2007, 09:36 PM   #174 (permalink)
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Money hasn't been discussed in this thread...mainly to erase inconsistancies years down the road in price.

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I both scanned and searched this thread for any mention of price.

Lets get down to money for a second.

Sling me some dollar amounts please so I can fill in the XXX's.

Is this pricing information from The Suspension Thread still accurate? Does it need to be modified, is it missing any new parts you are using?



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I am not taking any orders to do these any longer. I may do them in the future but for now I am done. I have one set that is going out and I am done.

Cost can be found at www.tirerack.com I will sell you the Koni's shipped to your door for the price tirerack uses (they will add shipping, I don't). You can try and save a couple buck but if you buy from me I am inclined to actually help you with your project with appropriate advice.
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The ones you want.

You came and took mine off my car?
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Money hasn't been discussed in this thread...manily to erase inconsistancies years down the road in price.
I understand your point, however I'm just looking for ballpark numbers. Right now I may have inconsistencies in the Suspension Thread on pricing (see quote in previous post). I suppose I could remove it, but I want folks to have some idea of what a CSK based suspension would run to do it themselves, or to have them done.

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The ones above are flanged for a S13/14 the other 3 sets I'm making right now are flanged for a B13/14.
Either you have a sh*t-ton of cars, or if someone were so inclined they could PM you on a set of turn-key CSK's?

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I am not taking any orders to do these any longer. I may do them in the future but for now I am done. I have one set that is going out and I am done.

Cost can be found at www.tirerack.com I will sell you the Koni's shipped to your door for the price tirerack uses (they will add shipping, I don't). You can try and save a couple buck but if you buy from me I am inclined to actually help you with your project with appropriate advice.
I've heard that before...

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Old 05-23-2007, 10:56 PM   #178 (permalink)
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So with all this talk about koni insert this shock that for the B series, wheres the love for the G, once again the red-headedstep-child of the Nissan/Infiniti realm has no love Just kidding.

Steve, could you give some recomendations on the shock/shock combo for the P11 with various spring rates (I currently run GC 400/380), and the shock/strut combo for the P10 with various rates as well (the P10 runs GC 250/200 IIRC). Im sure the spring rates that others run will vary all over the place, hence the request for the different recomendations. Thanks bud.
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Old 05-24-2007, 12:13 AM   #179 (permalink)
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Just one B14 in my garage if that's answers that for you Shawn.=) I have 3 other sets of housings that will be done in the next 2 weeks as well.

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Either you have a sh*t-ton of cars, or if someone were so inclined they could PM you on a set of turn-key CSK's?
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So with all this talk about koni insert this shock that for the B series, wheres the love for the G, once again the red-headedstep-child of the Nissan/Infiniti realm has no love Just kidding.

Steve, could you give some recomendations on the shock/shock combo for the P11 with various spring rates (I currently run GC 400/380), and the shock/strut combo for the P10 with various rates as well (the P10 runs GC 250/200 IIRC). Im sure the spring rates that others run will vary all over the place, hence the request for the different recomendations. Thanks bud.

Koni only has off the shelf units now for the 99+ G20. I thought I remember them having them for other G20's. It would be easy to measure up the pre 96 fronts to see if the 99 (which shares a very similar front suspension) would fit. I just go to a pick and pull junkyard. Pick it from both, measure both and walk away. The rear of the -96 can use the B13 rear or B14 front if you are using coilovers. I have not measured it for lowering springs.
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