in4am0spun

I am looking into buying new set up for my suspension. The old one is getting a little to bouncy for my taste... right now I am sitting on AGX w/ eibach or H&R? i forgot that the springs are. But I was reading up on Coilovers and found out they are bouncy from the get-go. Now I'm out of wack. Which way do I go.. Do I go w/ springs or coilovers. Please Sr20... PIMP MY RIDE

 

Shawn B

Where were you reading this mis-information? Quit reading that bullsh*t, whomever is writing that is ignorant.

Please read this thread:

http://www.sr20forum.com/driveline-t...formation.html

Coilovers themselves are nuetral, if some dumbass sets them up wrong or chooses the wrong spring rate, they can be bouncy. They can also be smooth as hell, comfortable DD friendly, and auto-cross ready.

This is the second time I have posted that Suspension Thread for you, yet you apparently refuse to read it.

http://www.sr20forum.com/200sx-se-r/...n-set-ups.html

I don't understand why you would choose to read absolute and utter horsesh*t, over something that is "SR20 Forum Approved." Threads don't make it into the Technical Library if they are not accurate. Can you possibly elucidate?

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You have not provided near enough information for anyone to answer that question.

What is your budget, how much are you willing to invest?

What are your exact uses for the vehicle?

What are your performance expectations?

What is your mechanical knowledge level? Can you do your own work?

Are you comfortable adjusting and re-adjusting your suspension all the time?

What are your other suspension related modifications?

Is this your only vehicle?

How old are your AGX's and what kind of shape are they in?

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in4am0spun

1. Around a Thousand
2. 1999 Nissan Sentra SE
3. Mainly want it for the dropped Look, but its going to be a DD
4. I have knowledge and can do the work on my own, but will get it done most likely by jun
5. Yea I'm good with adjusting the suspension all the time
6. besides for the struts/springs i'll also be throwing down sway bars and strut bars for the front/rear
7. Yes its my car
8. the AGX prob have around 8k or so. I got the car from FL.. And it was driving perfect. Then the closer I had got to new york, the more bumps that i hit, the bumpier the ride got.

McCoy

Sounds like you were on the bump stops... i.e. car was to low, and now the struts are possible dead.

Are there any fluids leaking from the struts? If you push down on the front or back of the car does the car bounce several times before resting to a stop, the same for when you go over big bumpstops at slower speeds?

Shawn B

Thank you.

Now, please read this thread:

http://www.sr20forum.com/driveline-t...formation.html

You write just fine when you put your mind to it, and you were reading about coilovers, you were just reading bullsh*t. Read something that is actually accurate. Educate yourself.

1. Around a Thousand - Decent budget, no problems.

2. 1999 Nissan Sentra SE - B14 or B15? I get confused on anything but a Classic.

3. Mainly want it for the dropped Look, but its going to be a DD. - OK. How much of a drop do you require for aesthetics? Is an inch enough? An inch will get rid of your 4X4 look, makes the car look much more purposeful. Do you want more of a drop than an inch?

4. I have knowledge and can do the work on my own, but will get it done most likely by jun - See the thread, within the Suspension Thread, on CSK's. Can you make your own CSK's? I know Jun can, but he will most likely charge you for making them. CSK's will work just fine for a DD teamed up with either the set of Eibach springs, or with H&R's. It will not be ideal, but you will retain your current drop, and gain a full inch of travel. With either spring set, that will get you back to nearly OEM travel (give or take a half an inch). Right now the travel on your suspension sucks. Hence it getting really bouncy on sh*t roads.

Or you have blown your AGX's. They are OEM length, and cannot and will not work correctly with either springs set you named. Bottoming out the suspension on the sh*tty NY roads, you may have blown the struts.

Which exact springs are on your car? As you can see, and read, in the Suspension Thread, you may be just fine for a DD on your current springs. However, you MUST team them up with CSK's. That extra inch of travel is critical.

Thee only springs you could have that will NOT work under any circumstances, with any struts, is the B14 Sportlines. Those just flat-out suck donkey balls.

Any of your other possibilities will work just fine as a DD, teamed up with CSK's only.

5. Yea I'm good with adjusting the suspension all the time - You stated it is a DD. Do you want to adjust the suspension? Do you want to just bolt it on, set it, align the car, and forget it? Will you be autocrossing or going to road racing (track, duh) events?

6. besides for the struts/springs i'll also be throwing down sway bars and strut bars for the front/rear - You may only need an RSB, on a DD, the FSB can usually remain stock.

7. Yes its my car - Your only car and your DD?

8. the AGX prob have around 8k or so. I got the car from FL.. And it was driving perfect. Then the closer I had got to new york, the more bumps that i hit, the bumpier the ride got - That could just be the difference in those reputedly "glass smooth" roads they have down in Florida, v.s. your reportedly sh*tty roads in New York. Or you may have blown one or more of your struts.

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And that my friend is all the information I am going to spoon feed you like you are some mentally challenged toddler. Until you read The Suspension Thread and have some clue on your end of this conversation, I am done with helping you.

It gets incredibly frustrating to me, for you to ask a bunch of questions and totally ignore a huge and comprehensive thread on suspensions that is in our Technical Library. You are going to spend "about a grand" on something that you are clueless about. Why not spend a couple of hours educating yourself before you spend your money? At this point, I am literally hand-feeding you The Suspension Thread, quote by quote.

Do you realize how fu*king lame that is?!? ..........

I don't even want to think about it, I will get mad, flame you to a char-broiled-crispy-cinder, this thread will end up "closed", and I will get in trouble for it. Chriscar and the Super Moderators will get pissed at me, might give me an infraction, I will feel guilty and apologize (again). It will be a very ugly scenario.

READ THE DAMN SUSPENSION THREAD THAT IS IN THE TECHNICAL LIBRARY.

See? I'm already getting mad and I am not even on my second cup of coffee.

Have a good day.

classicaddict

it has nothing to do with springs or coilovers. i could get $4000 coilovers and make them ride the exact same way as your H&R terrible setup. or make them ride like a caddy........or i could make them ride like a road racer.

i could go buy some AGX shocks and ground controlls and get the exact same spring rates as hypercoils, and drop it only 1 inch........"whats the point of doing that" you ask? i can cut nearly 75% of the stock spring perch away and run wider tires with no rubbing issues.

coilovers from ebay will be bouncy. if you have the correct spring rate and correct shocks it will be smooth as butter and handle amazing.

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in4am0spun

thats what i was thinking, FL roads are way more smoother then NY roads, So he prob never adjusted the springs, but w/o me knowing any of that knowledge i uffcked up my ride...

altho the shocks are not leaking oil, and when i press up and down it comes to a complete stop almost immediately, when i drive slowly and hit a bump, i probably bounce up and down once or 2ice, its not that bad, but the ride also itself is very stiff

topdog781

Coilovers you will never go back

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JimR

This guy used coilovers, and he's got a nice stance:



You are stuck at one height with lowering springs. Sometimes you need a street height and a show height if that's what you're after. Adjustable perches let you do that.

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Oh no, here we go...

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classicaddict

yup, coilovers. the trick is to buy the ebay coilover jawns and just use the springs. dont worry about the threaded perches (un needed weight if you ask me) and you will have a super JDM suspension........im being super cearial

jerryeads

Groan. Yes, coilovers will be bouncy, esp. if you don't remember to use struts with some damping - - - - - - -
gc's will never = hypercos, as hypercos are progressive. Not necessarily worse or better, just not the same.
Problem with ALL B13's is travel. Steve's coilover design helps. Getting it to sit right with Hyperco/AGX's gives you too little travel. Ergo, Steve's coilovers.

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