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Old 10-22-2007, 09:49 PM   #21 (permalink)
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98 your imput was good just not exactly what I was looking for I already started using your method when I got the setup it's just that there really wasn't enough time for trial and error that is why I asked for setups that HAVE worked for others.

Good idea. Your obviously not serious about doing things right so just guess away.
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:41 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Not trying to stir the pot, but on here autoxse-r just do a search under what 98sr20ve has contributed. He has good advice. There are a few names on here when they they post instructions, listen they know there stuff. He is one of them.

Look up shortened konis or Foltz konis. He is the Foltz in the shortened koins.

This will help too. Lots of good info here:
http://www.sr20forum.com/driveline-t...formation.html
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I read the article he posted, it was very informative and like I said I appreciate his advice but I was already using his advice before he gave it
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Good idea. Your obviously not serious about doing things right so just guess away.
Example #2,659 why this guy is a d!ck.
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I read the article he posted, it was very informative and like I said I appreciate his advice but I was already using his advice before he gave it
If that was true then why ask the question. What is to be learned that you can't learn yourself. If you know the answer why even post anything.


I am done with this. This guy just wants someone to tell him what to do and not learn anything for himself. This is a example of why I don't want to help people on forums any longer either. I assume (wrongly) that people want to learn and not be spoon fed some answer. The spoon fed answer of "just use X settings" is a guess, nothing more nothing less, just a guess at what might be best. If RedXman not come along, instead someone else said "I autocross and I use 3 front and 8 rear" He would have just done that more then likely. What others say is meaningless. What matters is what works for your car, with your tires, on your roads/track. Once you start pushing the edge of going stiffer you run the greater risk of hurting the performance rather then helping the performance. Especially on a car with combined rebound and compression adjustment.

Good luck with your project.

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I may look like a d!ck in this thread, but I don't like people without specific applicable experience throwing out random articles and saying, "Do this because I said so. And I read it somewhere, so it must be right, and applicable in this case." Then demeaning anyone else who chimes in (ROFL, seriously, what adult uses that term?) If you have a point, you should be able to back it up with technical knowledge and real-world experience. I have this same setup so figured I could give some input. 98sr20ve is a good reason why I don't normally post on internet forums, quick to bite for no reason, and always 100% right. I'd gladly compare engineering and racing resumes any day.
You sure are acting the part of a d!ck in this thread, that's for sure... just blindly throwing out a setup for a specific car is good and all, but each person typically has a different preference... Steve's advice was to help the originator of this thread find a setup that works for him... and not just what YOU are using. It may not be the advise he was looking for, but it did not require you attacking his posts like you did.

Just for reference, Steve (98sr20ve) knows suspension (and the weaknesses of the chassis) better than most on here and has autocrossed and tracked B14's in the past. He knows what he's talking about and quoting smarter guys to give an example is something I also do to help support an idea that I'm sharing. So your saying that you know more about suspension setup than say Lee Grimes of Koni, get real

edit - Oh yeah, if it makes you feel any better... I've been autocrossing since 2001 in a B13 and doing track days/HPDE events since 2003 on a monthly basis... just so you don't think I'm some young kid that's never been behind the wheel of a car before.
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but it did not require you attacking his posts like you did.
I did not attack the guy at all, it was the opposite. I didn't say anything about his advice, just said my experience, then was told I was stupid because I "couldn't comprehend a damn thing". I fail to see how that is attacking. My subsequent responses are simply standing up to a know-it-all forum nerd/bully.

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Just for reference, Steve (98sr20ve) knows suspension (and the weaknesses of the chassis) better than most on here and has autocrossed and tracked B14's in the past. He knows what he's talking about and quoting smarter guys to give an example is something I also do to help support an idea that I'm sharing. So your saying that you know more about suspension setup than say Lee Grimes of Koni, get real
I don't doubt that he knows his stuff, but telling someone to "start soft and work your way up is pretty vague advice. Autocrossers usually 4 runs/event (in my region at least). It'd take a season to tune the car with that method. Plus he never shared any additional ideas, just pulled a line from an article and forced it down everybody's throat. I have the exact same dampers in the same car and have autocrossed it. Seems like my input my be valuable, eh?

As for Lee, obviously he's an intelligent guy, but shouldn't be put on a pedestal like everything he says is gospel. His article is good, but never really talks about tuning a car like this. Talks about Stock Class autocross and Touring cars, nowhere in between.
Being a mechanical engineer at a major Japanese automaker for the last 6 years, plus Race Engineer on their professional race team for the last 4 years makes me question others' qualifications, if you're going to pitch an idea, you should be able to put some theory behind it. I didn't spew any philosophy, just my personal experience. To back it up I have 5 full seasons of autocross and 5 years of Club Racing (SCCA National 1 season, Regional 4 seasons, and NASA (1 season).
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