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Old 12-01-2007, 03:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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rising spring perches

Hi I want to rise spring perches on KYB AGX by 1/2''. What is the best way to go about it? I don’t want to weld because it's a gas shock….
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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........what? i have no clue what is being asked. is it that you want to rase the car a 1/2 inch? i know some places carry universal spring spacers.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Get the rubber inserts from nissan that go under the spring. They rise it up about .25" IIRC. Why do you want to raise the spring perches?
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Old 12-02-2007, 01:12 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I need more suspension travel because my car is too heavy. I don't like coil overs because they are only 8'' and my springs are 14'' so I believe they give smoother off road ride.

Force of spring = spring rate * distance of compression.

So if coilovers have less distance to compress, spring rates must be higher to apply the same force as regular springs.
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Old 12-02-2007, 01:26 AM   #5 (permalink)
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i know some places carry universal spring spacers.
I'd like to use metal spacers so I don't have to worry about cracking of rubber spacers. Can I just buy universal metal spacers?

What I was thinking about is cutting off stock spring perches from struts and putting them on the top of AGX's perches. Then drill through both perches and bolt them together.
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Old 12-02-2007, 06:25 AM   #6 (permalink)
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You do realize that "Smilyface" is not spelled correctly?

Smileyface would be the correct spelling.

Your spelling would be pronounced "smilly face." Which does make me laugh everytime I see it.
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Old 12-02-2007, 07:04 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks for pointing this out. You misspelled your sig too. There is no such word as "shawn" it is supposed to be "shown" - the past participle of the verb "to show."
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:28 AM   #8 (permalink)
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The last question,

If I put AGX to 1st setting are they going to be softer than OEM? I need softer struts than OEM and that is why I want to put AGX.

As I said, I am going to be driving off road with some heavy sh*t on daily basis....




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Old 12-02-2007, 12:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I don't like coil overs because they are only 8'' and my springs are 14''
You can probably get softer 14" springs for coilovers.

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If I put AGX to 1st setting are they going to be softer than OEM? I need softer struts than OEM and that is why I want to put AGX.
They are supposed to be "slightly softer" in the front, the same as stock in the rear. I'd imagine even then they'd actually work out to be stiffer than stock. I'd look for like a monroe sensatrac if you want softer.

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I am going to be driving off road with some heavy sh*t on daily basis....
Why not a pickup truck then?
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Thanks for pointing this out. You misspelled your sig too. There is no such word as "shawn" it is supposed to be "shown" - the past participle of the verb "to show."
there is a name shawn

whats up with these spacers I want to raise the rear of my b13 will they work, and be safe? where can I get some?
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Old 12-03-2007, 04:46 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks for pointing this out. You misspelled your sig too. There is no such word as "shawn" it is supposed to be "shown" - the past participle of the verb "to show."
If I hadn't pointed it out Smilly, someone else eventually would have.

You could try asking a moderator to fix it.
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Thank you.

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Old 12-03-2007, 08:04 AM   #12 (permalink)
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As I said, I am going to be driving off road with some heavy sh*t on daily basis....

Why?
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:01 PM   #14 (permalink)
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off roading with a half a ton of audio?
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:44 PM   #15 (permalink)
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It is all about fishing. when you drive along a river you need a lot of clearance especially during the winter...
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wow can someone please give smilyface a answer this whole thread just made my brain hurt, every response i wished for a answer and instead got a riddle. who cares what he wants to haul even if its dead donkeys, just give him a answer or tell him you cant help. look this thread even made me crazy now i wanna go find a purple donkey put it in my trunk and call it a boozaka tube
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Get the rubber inserts from nissan that go under the spring. They rise it up about .25" IIRC. Why do you want to raise the spring perches?
i appoligize someone tried to help. rob have i told you you are the man
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:13 AM   #18 (permalink)
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LOL at how he wants you to change ur name to shown! I was just searching for more of this dude's posts and gosh darn it I knew I was gonna find some funny stuff.
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I need more suspension travel because my car is too heavy. I don't like coil overs because they are only 8'' and my springs are 14'' so I believe they give smoother off road ride.

Force of spring = spring rate * distance of compression.

So if coilovers have less distance to compress, spring rates must be higher to apply the same force as regular springs.
There is a small error in your chain of logic.

The free length of the spring is not directly related to the amount of travel you have in your suspension system.

Part of it is because the actual travel of the spring is the loaded length (or free length) minus the coil bind height. In other words, a spring with a 14" loaded length and a 12" coil bind height will have less travel than a spring with a 8" loaded length and a 4" coil bind height.

This is a moot point though, because (in a properly designed system) the damper will always run out of travel before the spring reaches coil bind. Basically, it doesn't really matter whether you choose the 8" spring or the 14" spring, because you are going to hit your bump stops before your spring turns stacks down into a solid spacer regardless.


So from a practical standpoint, you should be looking for springs with a low spring rate and sufficient free length to match up to the dampers with the most travel.


If you're on a budget, I would say stick stock springs on a new set of GR2's with some polycellular bump stops (Konis or something of the sort). It won't let your car rock crawl, but it will be tolerable both on tarmac and rocky gravel.
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