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Old 07-24-2008, 04:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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HOW TO: Change your axle(s)

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I have never done this before, I am not a mechanic, I barely know what I'm talking about and I used the exact directions from the Haynes manual. $20 at your local auto store. If you mess something up, that's what you get for doing it yourself. I took the risk and blame nobody but myself, and so should you. Now to the good stuff...


I thought I'd do something different and add a FAQ before we get it on:

What are you doing?
Changing the driver’s side axle.

Why?
I had a 'clunking' noise while pressing on the gas, the brakes and through turns. No real issue while 'coasting'. Sounds like a wrench in a metal tool box being rolled down a hill...

Where did you get your parts, how much was it and why did you get it from them?
AutoZone: $69.99 plus tax and $45 core charge = total of $123.33. (CA taxed)
It was cheap, close and I have a rewards card with them, so I better get some damn rewards for always buying from them!

Are they new? Remanufactured? What brand?
They tell you new in the store, but who really knows. Some people will tell you they are not new. But, if they were remanufactured, then why do they not have the middle damper? (Read on further if you don’t know what the ‘damper’ is.) The actual brand name is "Cardone".

WHAT! YOU DIDN'T GET OEM OR EVEN RAXLES!? OMG, WTF!! WHY??
OEM = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Raxles = $$$$$$ (I was quoted $149.95 for each side plus $54 for shipping). AutoZone = $. I'm not racing the car, this is just my daily driver that I want to maintain and learn from. Why spend money if I don't have to…they have a lifetime warranty. Yes, they offer it because it WILL BREAK AGAIN (the one I pulled out was identical to the AutoZone...not stock). But, I'm not made of money...if I was, I wouldn't have done it myself. So, they are good enough for me.

So then...what's the real difference between stock, raxles and what you got?
Aside from the pricing, OEM is...OEM. Raxles is remanufactured OEM with new parts. They both also come with the middle rubber 'damper'. I think that's what it's called anyway…it’s supposed to help with vibration (NOTE: It's vibration is supposed to occur at 30mph...I have yet to feel it. If I do, I will update my experience). The cheap ones have just a straight rod in the middle...see photos below. Green = stock, black = Cardone.

Stock (top one is a LSD axle, bottom is a NON-LSD axle, see this thread :http://www.sr20forum.com/sr20de-tech...ison-pics.html for more information on the differences):


Cardone (AutoZone):



Does it matter if you have LSD or ABS?
Yes and no, respectively.

- It does matter if you have LSD. Read the thread I linked above to learn about their differences. Do you have LSD? Yes, if you have a NX2000, B13 Sentra SE-R or ‘95-‘97 B14 200sx SE-R. I have no idea about the G20's. '98 200's did not come with them from what I've read. I don't know for sure, so search if you're unsure. Also from what I’ve read, neither did the B14 Sentra SE’s/SE-L’s.

- No, it does not matter if you have ABS. There is some sensor ring for the ABS, but I have no idea what it actually is. IT DOESN’T MATTER ANYWAY! I don't have ABS, nor was there a difference when you order the part. It's either a 2.0L or 1.6L. So, don’t’ worry about it. But, if you insist…you'll know if you don't have ABS if...

1. When you turn on the car, no "ABS" light comes on at the top of your instrument cluster.
2. There are supposed to be 2 lines going into your master cylinder. 4 lines = NO ABS.
3. There is a sensor on the passenger side strut...or something. I don't know, I don't have ABS.
4. There is this plug behind your air filter just hanging there. It's brown and not connected to anything. Why? Because it's easier to make one set of wires than two. So, if you don't have ABS...then you can't hook it up to anything.
5. You drive really, really fast…brake hard and your brakes lock up and you skid. If you have ABS, you get a foot massage and feel like your car is about to b..bre...break apart. NOTE: Your ABS could just not be working, so this test really proves nothing except that you're an idiot or adrenaline junkie (they go hand in hand most times)...because I just explained four other easy ways to find out.


So, now that I got that out of the way...here is the HOW TO:



Tools:

Breaker bar and pry bar (or really long and thick flathead screwdriver)
Lug nut socket
Axle nut socket (don’t know the size, sorry)
Needle nose pliers
10mm wrench (optional, you’ll see why)
14mm wrench
Adjustable wrench (didn’t have a big enough size, sorry…I’m cheap)
Jack, jack stands, gloves, goggles, pan to catch tranny fluid…etc. Safety, safety, safety.
Haynes Manual (Optional. This is what I used, but I’m explaining it here, so…just print this out. It has bigger photos. Save the F$M for the ballers and car junkies)


Okay, before I get in depth with photos, do the obvious steps. No photos, you should know how to do this. If you don’t, STOP NOW and get someone else to do it. You’re obviously going to need help.

a. Disconnect the negative terminal from the battery. Now, the manual says to do this for everything, so whether you really have to do it or not, I don’t know. I’m not a mechanic. But I did it anyway…because I’m not a mechanic.
b. Set the parking brake, loosen the lug nuts, jack the car up and take the wheel off. The Haynes manual will show you where to place your jack and stands if you don’t already know (again…you should have stopped earlier).


Now you’re ready for the good stuff.

1. Remove the pin using your NEEDLE NOSE PLIERS. You have to bend the other side so it comes out…duh.
Bend here:

Pull here:


2. Remove the cap:


3. Now you must use your axle socket, breaker bar and pry bar (if you have one). As I did not have one at the time (my uncle later gave me one), I had to ‘adapt and overcome’ my situation. Here’s a photo of what I did to ‘break’ the axle nut loose:

3a. Basically I put a breaker bar (Craftsman) in between my rim and the wheel studs. Then I used my other breaker bar (Snap-On), hooked to the axle socket and yanked it loose. It’s stuck on there pretty good, just make sure not to break anything while you’re yanking. Also, I am refinishing my rims, so I did not care if I damaged them. The manual states to wedge the pry bar (if it’s long enough, my breaker bar wasn’t) between the studs and the ground. But, obviously I couldn’t do that, so I created the method above.
Now take off the nut:

Don’t forget the washer:


4. Next you must release the shifter linkage from the control arm. I don’t know if what I just said is right, but it sounds familiar.
Use your 14mm wrench:


*NOTE* I only jacked up one side, so I don’t know if this matters…but the sway bar (I think that’s what it’s called) popped up after I released the nut. To get the bushing, washer and nut back on, I had to place my jack under the control arm and raise it up past the linkage bolt. Probably not recommended, but what else was I to do? I do NOT know if raising the whole front end would have helped, someone else might know.

5. Now you move onto this pin and nut located behind the brake assembly. I don’t remember what it’s called, but here’s a decent picture of me removing the pin:

5a. Now use your adjustable wrench to get loosen this nut:

5b. DO NOT take it off all the way. Before you do, you are supposed to pry the control arm away from the bolt. It says to use a fork thing, but I didn’t have one, so I just wedged my screwdriver like this:

5c. After you pop it out, finish removing the nut and pull the control arm out of the way:


6. Now you are ready to get the first side of the axle out. Simply move the brake assembly out of the way and it’ll just fall out. This is me ‘moving the brake assembly out of the way’:

And then it falls out:


7. Before you yank the axle out, stick a pan under the tranny where it connects to the axle. Fluid may come out, so catch it in the pan. Nothing came out when I did it. Either that's because I'm low on fluid or because I only jacked up one side, so it was leaning all the liquid onto the other side.


8. Ooh…fun stuff up ahead. Stick your prying object (I used the longest and thickest (did I just say that) screwdriver I had. Wedge it between the axle and the transmission like so:


Pry that sucker out! Doesn’t want to come out? You’ll need either a pry bar, longer screwdriver for more leverage or a really strong mofo. I opted for the pry bar, but choose what you wish. It’ll eventually come out. I spent over an hour trying to find ways to get it out. TIP? Sure, why not. Jack up the car as high as you can so you can get good leverage. Can’t get better leverage? Are you just too weak? Well, do what I did and kick the crap out of the pry bar. Two hours and a few cuts and bruises later, it’ll come out. Trust me. Just ask b13sr20guy how many times I called him to figure out what the hell I was doing.


To put the axle back in, just reverse the directions. I had to hold the axle straight and move the brake assembly out of the way while my uncle tapped the other end of the axle to make it go in. It didn't just 'slide right in'. It got 'stuck' a few times, so make sure you LOOK and see that it's all the way in. There should only be about a CM of space left...if that. Also, read before you do anything as I didn’t. You should put a new axle seal in between the axle and the tranny. I didn’t read that part until I was done and test driving the car. Hopefully it holds up. If not, I have a lifetime warranty and muscle memory of the first go around.

Now that you're done (and you've torqued everything accordingly...I'll update those specs tomorrow, I forgot my book at my parents house where I was working on the car...) take it for a test drive. I noticed a squeal when I first started driving. Almost like rubber against rubber. Anyways, after like 20 seconds of driving I haven't heard it again. When you get back (if you're me), look over at your dad leaving in his 2007 STi and dream on. You own a SE-R (SE/SE-L/G20/G20-t/whatever else you guys cry about).

Owell, some day you'll be done with college and making the big bucks.

I know that was long, but I hope it helps. I’d like to thank b13sr20guy for helping me on the phone, SWISS for this thread : http://www.sr20forum.com/sr20de-tech...ison-pics.html. JimR for his post (#6) in this thread : http://www.sr20forum.com/sr20de-tech...ison-pics.html. And also to everyone else who knows what they are talking about. Most importantly though, I’d like to thank this guy :


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Old 07-24-2008, 08:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Did you try

I have had better luck disconnecting the bottom of my coilover and prying the axle out. As an added hint when you are trying to put the new axle in make sure you have the little clip lined up and down other wise it will go in and kinda get stuck halfway in and out. Then it won't go in or pull out very easily
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Awesome Awesome Post!!! I have to do this soon and considering that I am also not a mechanic...this will help out immensely!!
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Old 07-24-2008, 04:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm officially doing it myself now, fu*k who needs a mechanic, when you have such indepth write-ups.
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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man i never had to unbolt the lower ball joint....i just unhooked the tie rod and the 2 strut bolts so the spindle moves freely and i just turned the spinle and lighty tapped the axles out of the spindle and pulled it out..........other than that pretty staight foward......i use the autozone ones.........had them for about a yr in a half and no problems at all.......and my car is slammed on ksports and there holding up perfect........can beat the lifetime warrenty either........
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Old 07-24-2008, 07:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Well that's good to know. Like I said, I'm no mechanic and I've never done this before. I did everything exactly how the book said. It was a pain to do, and there are probably easier ways...but again, I just went by the book.

Lifetime warranty is great. Not to mention you get good at replacing things. In my old 200 I had to replace the alternator 4 times within one year. Products are great, but I got real good at taking it out and putting it back in. Haha.
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Old 07-24-2008, 07:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm officially doing it myself now, fu*k who needs a mechanic, when you have such indepth write-ups.
Yo, hit me up when you want to flush your coolant system. I'm going to do it too, so you can always come over and learn on my car first. I probably won't do it for a couple more weeks. I'm trying to sell stuff to pay for the car vice taking from savings. Damn I need a job...
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
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really good write up mayne.

did a few extra un necessary steps but overall a great write up.

as far as the ABS ring, its called a "tone ring". and its one of the more important parts of the ABS system
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A tip on removing the axle nut: take off the center cap of your wheel and break loose the axle nut before you jack up the car.
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A tip on removing the axle nut: take off the center cap of your wheel and break loose the axle nut before you jack up the car.
this guy here deserves a f-ing gold star smiley face sticker for that suggestion.. seriously im not jokin.. you know how many people i know including my self that have mad that mistake... its unreal.. anyways good suggestion buddy!!
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this guy here deserves a f-ing gold star smiley face sticker for that suggestion.. seriously im not jokin.. you know how many people i know including my self that have mad that mistake... its unreal.. anyways good suggestion buddy!!
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if only i had that stuff
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Old 11-23-2008, 12:37 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Wow, great how to. I'm going to have to do this very soon. My plan was to pay a guy I know $100 to do the passenger side. I'm having a little more confidence in doing this myself now. This thing is clunking and clicking like crazy.
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What is the part # on that Axle? I need to get one but I wanna make sure I get the right one the first time.
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the big axle nut is 32mm.
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The reason you remove the lower control arm from the knuckle via the ball joint is because you don't have to redo your alignment afterward. If you remove the two bolts on the bottom of the strut, then your alignment will be off.
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I have been taking off my spindles to get the wheel bearings done in them and this write up has been a god send, good job!
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