Lowering questions - Page 2

veilside180sx · 02-18-2009, 03:08 AM

Shawn your welcome at my place any time.=) Always good for a laugh, but unfortunately for evilempire18...it's at his expense.

Old guy · 02-18-2009, 09:00 AM

My experience with Hyperco springs is that they drop the car about an inch and give about 1.5 deg. negative camber in front. Perfect for a DD. Don't need to mess with camber bolts or plates. This is on a b14, but my guess is that the b13 will be similar. Probably the same with Road Magnet springs. Any kind of lowering spring will blow stock struts in a short time.

You need to decide what you want for your car. Is it look, or is it performance? Every car is a compromise of some sort. Pretty much every mod you make to a car will also involve a compromise.

The great thing about the SR20 crowd is that there is 18 years of good engineering done by many people on these cars. Most of it is on this forum someplace if you search. Just because a company makes a set of springs (or header, or intake) for our cars doesn't mean that it works. Use the experience on here. Read for awhile. Soon you will be able to tell who knows their stuff and who is just tossing out BS.

Taurus45acp · 02-18-2009, 10:48 AM

more epic pwnage!

dcr1d3r13 · 02-18-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 10psigti

i will be starting a group buy in the very near future for some d2 or bc coilovers for 700 more or less shipped with one year warranty i just have to work out a few things with my friend who owns a tuner shop and has alot of contacts for diffrent suspension parts i already have chriscars permission so i am just waiting on a few things to get the ball rolling will need 10+ pairs but for any chasis b13 b14 b15 p10 p11 s13 s14 as long as we get 10 pairs or more we will get a very good deal we dont need 10 of any one kind of chasis we can mix and match so if we get 2 b13, 2 b14, 2 p10 and so on the deal will go through

what are bc coilovers?

acidraindrops: have you looked at megan racing coilovers?

bluebomber · 02-18-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Acidraindrops

I thought that basics weren't available for a b13?

Edit: also, I can't afford to buy an entire susp. setup right now. Would it be foolish or risk screwing up my car if I started with RM springs and nicer bumpstops and at somepoint got new struts and camber plates?

I am a high school student with a part time job, so I don't have $400-600 for struts, and another $250 for camber plates in addition to $250 for springs. At my wage level getting together $1000 for a car was hard enough let alone another g JUST for susp.

Learn from the masters on this forum. Figure out what it is you want to do with your car and then purchase the best quality product for your application. As you can see the cheep stuff is cheep for a reason ... it doesnt work. BTW SuperblackZ has some great posts on suspension information as well as Shawn

My suggestion would be to budget your mods and learn how to fix your car (not that you might not know how to already) this will save you a lot of money down the road and free up extra funds for modding. For example buying a set of good coilovers that come with camber plates and rebuildable components will cost more on top but will save you money down the road, not to mention, be able to accommodate all of your driving needs.

bluebomber · 02-18-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by evilempire18

Thank you for all your wisdom, on suspensions it’s great you have the knowhow but do you have the know too? Did you ever test for yourself anything you’re saying? And let’s ask the guy that’s asking the question Acidraindrops, did you go there and read word for word what it said? What do you think? Are you able to purchase all these accessories? If you’re not Mr. Millionaire like I am, get a good set of springs and camber bolts, and don’t worry about bolts breaking because I have a set of those one my B13 with makes 623WHP and I race it all the time down the track without a problem so you could believe everything you read or you could just do it and learn for yourself

Can we see pics of this?? You should understand these concepts if you are running a 600+ WHP car.

Taurus45acp · 02-24-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by evilempire18

Thank you for all your wisdom, on suspensions it’s great you have the knowhow but do you have the know too? Did you ever test for yourself anything you’re saying? And let’s ask the guy that’s asking the question Acidraindrops, did you go there and read word for word what it said? What do you think? Are you able to purchase all these accessories? If you’re not Mr. Millionaire like I am, get a good set of springs and camber bolts, and don’t worry about bolts breaking because I have a set of those one my B13 with makes 623WHP and I race it all the time down the track without a problem so you could believe everything you read or you could just do it and learn for yourself

pics or slips motherf**ker or it didnt happen.

Nismo_34 · 03-18-2009, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawn B

Thanks, but it is readily apparent you have not read the thread.

If you had, you would know it's not my knowledge.

It is the collective knowledge of experts on our suspensions.

English please.

I never said anything. However, the experts in that thread have stated the facts about our suspensions. You can ignore them if you wish, but there is nothing to "test." Unless you think you are smarter for example than Mike Kojima, Steve Foltz, the Progress engineers, and Dave Coleman. Then I urge you to test away and prove those guys wrong. Knock yourself out.

You want to make uneducated choices about your suspension, that is your prerogative. Just don't spread your ignorance.

All what accessories? What are you babbling about?

Your initial advice was to, and I am quoting you, buy "a good set of springs form Tein would be fine." Which is absolute crap. Tein springs for our vehicles suck.

Are you really trying to assert that Tien springs for the B13 chassis qualify as "good"?!? Tein springs are a tragedy of piss-poor aftermarket engineering. Acidraindrops would be far better off with the stock OEM springs.

You're still grossly ignorant on our suspensions, no matter how much horsepower you put down, or how fast you zip down a smooth, straight, quarter-mile long section of privately owned asphalt.

Why read anything at all? Hell, there is no knowledge in books, on-line, or anything to be learned from anyone else via any media. Start over completely. Burn all the libraries, and ignore all the scholars. You should start by re-inventing fire, the wheel, and a mud hut.

You can just ignore that information on which all of the forum(s) suspension experts agree. Why pay attention to the smart folks?

Blaze your own trial, do not even attempt to get a basic knowledge from experts upon which to build. Just try out several dozen different suspension combinations, praying to god that you stumble upon the correct combination before you run out of money. Budget a minimum of a grand per suspension set-up. Try out every single one on the market. Test them all, all by yourself. Purchase all of the test equipment, rent a track, hire a certified expert driver, and then perform a series of proper tests on each and every suspension combination. Then extrapolate the results and determine your best suspension combinations.

On the other hand, your average reader could read eighty-one (81) pages of facts, presented by experts, and all in one handy thread, in a couple of nights. Time well spent, to educate oneself, before one starts foolishly wasting money on crappy suspension products. Or prior to one opening their mouth to confirm their ignorance by spewing it to others.

lol, I was thinking almost the same thing as I read his post.

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Originally Posted by evilempire18

Thank you for all your wisdom, on suspensions it’s great you have the knowhow but do you have the know too? Did you ever test for yourself anything you’re saying? And let’s ask the guy that’s asking the question Acidraindrops, did you go there and read word for word what it said? What do you think? Are you able to purchase all these accessories? If you’re not Mr. Millionaire like I am, get a good set of springs and camber bolts, and don’t worry about bolts breaking because I have a set of those one my B13 with makes 623WHP and I race it all the time down the track without a problem so you could believe everything you read or you could just do it and learn for yourself

This is the most fail I have ever seen on the internet in one post.....

fixboot · 05-09-2009, 12:04 AM

From personal experience: DO NOT GO CHEAP!

I run Tokico blues with Intrax (incraps)

I almost need a chiropractor to fix the damage this -s-h-i-t-t-y- setup has caused my back. Still has horrible roll, drop looks like crap 'cause the back sits lower than the front, pretty sure the struts blew out a month after install and pretty much was the worst "upgrade" Ive ever preformed on my precious b13.

I think the only benefit of my strut/spring/-s-h-i-t- combo is the fact that it makes boobs jiggle like crazy and I happen to have amazing peripheral vision!

I was stupid and wanted a cheap rice drop and assumed it would just stick to the corners like crazy. I was wrong and now I'm too broke to change it until next year. Just keep her stock until you can get your car the quality parts it deserves.

Trust me, your back will thank you.

Unless you're completely nuts, want the cheap drop and want to trade me your stockers for my Tokico/Incraps. Id take stock again any day.

pathfinder7 · 05-13-2009, 09:03 PM

Read the threads and learn, for all you guys and gals, there are years of experience's and knowledge to be had here from people that have been there and done that, and it is free to the one's that want to learn.
This old timer knows.
Ed