Acidraindrops

I'd really like my b13 to sit lower, but I know that if I just throw lowering springs on it the suspension geometry will be terrible. Are there any solutions?

evilempire18

don't drop it, slam it! lol... a good set of springs form Tein would be fine but you might want to do an alignment after you're done, and buy some camber bolts whiles you're at it.

Acidraindrops

Awesome, needs an alignment as is. Do you know what width and diameter the bolts are for a b13?

evilempire18

if you go on tirerack.com you could type in the year make and such and go to suspension, you'll find it there get both back and front it's like $20.00 for a set of 2 you need 4 could find springs there too

lbto

you should search b13 suspension, there is a through thread that discusses all suspension products for b13's and b14's. i would not recommend slamming it with regular shocks because you will be riding on bumpstops. do a search on csk.

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TommyD241

Please thoroughly read this thread before you do anything to your suspension....

http://www.sr20forum.com/driveline-t...formation.html

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Shawn B

Yes, buy either Hyperco Gen II springs or Road Magnets.

Further, read this thread:

http://www.sr20forum.com/driveline-t...formation.html

You have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

Please read this before you answer any more suspension questions for anybody:

http://www.sr20forum.com/driveline-t...formation.html

Geezus, quit posting on suspension questions until you have educated yourself by reading the thread posted. Seriously, your suspension ignorance is off the charts.

The blind leading the blind.

Thank you Tommy.

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Acidraindrops

wow, thanks for the advice, my sus could have gone south fast (no pun intended)

Taurus45acp

have you tried cutting the springs?





no seriously, dont.

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evilempire18

So you continue reading forums and doing work to cars it will work out! Tell me where I’m wrong if you know so much? When you drop a car doesn’t the camber go out? Don’t you need camber correction kits to bring the camber back it? The average camber bolts swings to -1.5 deg camber correction!!!! You should do rather than read!!!!!

Shawn B

Please translate that sentence to English. Currently, it makes no sense whatsoever.

Have you read the link provided above? I never said I know so much, quite the contrary. The fact is that you know so little and erroneously think you know what you're talking about.

Until you read the thread contained in the link above, posted multiple times, you are ignorant and spewing false information.

1) Incorrect. Flat out wrong.

That statement is an oxymoron. Tein springs for our vehicles suck and will not work properly no matter which struts you use. They'd be "fine" if he is after a ricer-drop, does not care about a performance loss, and has glass smooth roads in his area.

2) "Want" is incorrect.

He will need an alignment after changing out his springs.

3) Camber bolts are also referred to a "crash bolts" or "po' boys camber correction."

Therefore, you are about half right on this statement. I would not use camber bolts on my vehicle. Get some camber plates and do it right.

4) Technically, he could find springs on Tirerack.com, however the springs he finds would suck big-time.

I'll give you half-credit because Tirerack does in fact carrry springs. However, recommending the brands they stock for B13's to anyone is absurd and piss-poor advice.

You should read, educate yourself, and quit your ignorant posting until you know what the f*ck you are talking about.

You got two (2) statements out of four (4) flat-out incorrect. You got two (2) statements out of four (4) half right. Therefore, you got 25% of your answers correct. That is an "F" sir. You have completely failed the Suspension Test.

Everytime you open your mouth, you confirm your lack of knowledge. Go read the thread provided, read it again, then you might be qualified to discuss our suspensions and not sound like an ignorant, defensive, jackass.

Hell, you can do whatever you like to your vehicle. You can read the thread provided or remain ignorant.

Just don't be misleading newbs and typeing like you have a clue. That is spreading your ignorance and misinformation to others.

Taurus45acp

^^^ Epic pwn.

Lowering with cheap parts is a PITA, bite the bullet and go out and get some proven suspension. I was able to find some Tein basics w/ pillowball mounts (camber adjustments) for a good price..wont have to worry about bottoming out or blowing shocks as you would with most spring/ factory strut setups.

Acidraindrops

I thought that basics weren't available for a b13?

Edit: also, I can't afford to buy an entire susp. setup right now. Would it be foolish or risk screwing up my car if I started with RM springs and nicer bumpstops and at somepoint got new struts and camber plates?

I am a high school student with a part time job, so I don't have $400-600 for struts, and another $250 for camber plates in addition to $250 for springs. At my wage level getting together $1000 for a car was hard enough let alone another g JUST for susp.

Taurus45acp

i drive a b14, but im sure you can find something equivalent. The peace of mind knowing my struts arent gonna give out on me, or the car isn't going to shoot off in the wrong direction, is worth the extra money.

10psigti

i will be starting a group buy in the very near future for some d2 or bc coilovers for 700 more or less shipped with one year warranty i just have to work out a few things with my friend who owns a tuner shop and has alot of contacts for diffrent suspension parts i already have chriscars permission so i am just waiting on a few things to get the ball rolling will need 10+ pairs but for any chasis b13 b14 b15 p10 p11 s13 s14 as long as we get 10 pairs or more we will get a very good deal we dont need 10 of any one kind of chasis we can mix and match so if we get 2 b13, 2 b14, 2 p10 and so on the deal will go through

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Acidraindrops

that sounds like a great deal, but seeing as I need to pay for insurance, gas and any possible repairs that might crop up I still couldn't afford it. I don't mean to come off as whiny, but I would need to build up my suspension set up piece by piece with my budget.

evilempire18

Thank you for all your wisdom, on suspensions it’s great you have the knowhow but do you have the know too? Did you ever test for yourself anything you’re saying? And let’s ask the guy that’s asking the question Acidraindrops, did you go there and read word for word what it said? What do you think? Are you able to purchase all these accessories? If you’re not Mr. Millionaire like I am, get a good set of springs and camber bolts, and don’t worry about bolts breaking because I have a set of those one my B13 with makes 623WHP and I race it all the time down the track without a problem so you could believe everything you read or you could just do it and learn for yourself

TommyD241

Check the classifieds. Frequently there are people selling RM/AGX or Hypercoil/RM or Tein Basic coilovers.

Or just buy the parts you can afford and hold onto them until you get all the parts you need... Or just save up until you can buy a quality set-up.

Just don't by cheap parts that don't work with our cars. It will end up costing you a lot more in the end.

I know it looks cool to lower the car a bit. Hell, I'm dying to do so myself, but you'd be surprised what a difference a good set of tires or a rear sway bar (Progress) will make.

Taurus45acp

how about drive it stock for a while and save ur pennies for real kick ass susp. Ur gonna want to upgrade later ******.

Shawn B

Thanks, but it is readily apparent you have not read the thread.

If you had, you would know it's not my knowledge.

It is the collective knowledge of experts on our suspensions.

English please.

I never said anything. However, the experts in that thread have stated the facts about our suspensions. You can ignore them if you wish, but there is nothing to "test." Unless you think you are smarter for example than Mike Kojima, Steve Foltz, the Progress engineers, and Dave Coleman. Then I urge you to test away and prove those guys wrong. Knock yourself out.

You want to make uneducated choices about your suspension, that is your prerogative. Just don't spread your ignorance.

All what accessories? What are you babbling about?

Your initial advice was to, and I am quoting you, buy "a good set of springs form Tein would be fine." Which is absolute crap. Tein springs for our vehicles suck.

Are you really trying to assert that Tien springs for the B13 chassis qualify as "good"?!? Tein springs are a tragedy of piss-poor aftermarket engineering. Acidraindrops would be far better off with the stock OEM springs.

You're still grossly ignorant on our suspensions, no matter how much horsepower you put down, or how fast you zip down a smooth, straight, quarter-mile long section of privately owned asphalt.

Why read anything at all? Hell, there is no knowledge in books, on-line, or anything to be learned from anyone else via any media. Start over completely. Burn all the libraries, and ignore all the scholars. You should start by re-inventing fire, the wheel, and a mud hut.

You can just ignore that information on which all of the forum(s) suspension experts agree. Why pay attention to the smart folks?

Blaze your own trial, do not even attempt to get a basic knowledge from experts upon which to build. Just try out several dozen different suspension combinations, praying to god that you stumble upon the correct combination before you run out of money. Budget a minimum of a grand per suspension set-up. Try out every single one on the market. Test them all, all by yourself. Purchase all of the test equipment, rent a track, hire a certified expert driver, and then perform a series of proper tests on each and every suspension combination. Then extrapolate the results and determine your best suspension combinations.

On the other hand, your average reader could read eighty-one (81) pages of facts, presented by experts, and all in one handy thread, in a couple of nights. Time well spent, to educate oneself, before one starts foolishly wasting money on crappy suspension products. Or prior to one opening their mouth to confirm their ignorance by spewing it to others.

Excellent advice sir.

More good advice.

Acidraindrops, I saved for eighteen (18) months to purchase my suspension.