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honestly shawn put a hell of alot more time an research into the suspension thread then 3 hours, just a little fyi.
go for the gold, cause there is no silver just bronze
Well, Mr. Nutjob began his comprehensive suspension thread by stating:
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I am no expert, I have very limited mechanical knowledge at best.
Then he proceded to quote a bunch of other people, like Mike Kojima, who could probably give a rat's ass about daily drivability.
While I'm sure the people Shawn B got his second-hand info from know exactly what they're talking about, I think what many of us want to know is how the car will behave under normal circumstances.
I bought one of these cars because it's fun to drive and, more importantly, DIRT cheap. I paid 900 bucks for mine, and I don't see $1500 worth of coilovers in my future. Sorry Mr. Kojima.
I just wanna know how miserable I would be driving to work on some nice cheap lowering springs. I don't want the car dragging on the ground, just don't want it to look like a skateboard.
Good thing there were a few people around who weren't deterred by the suspension nazi to share their real-world experience. That's what forums are for, after all.
h&r's are fine on the freeway, but around town any bump, pot hole or speed hump or even the speed bumps in parking lots will be annoying.
i've auto-x'd with mine an it sucked.. however the drag strip was pretty good becaus the car doesnt squat as much on launch
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Dude what the F**K is your problem??? Are you bitter because you spent three hours making a suspension thread?
I don't have any problems, except know-it-all newbs who are in reality both obnoxious little sh*ts and f*cking clueless.
Further, I was entirely cordial in both of my first two posts in this thread. The OP started with the attitude. Now you, in your apparent brilliance, dredge up a three (3) month old discussion and jump my sh*t? Well, let me happily oblige you asshole.
Three hours to make the Suspension Thread?
It prints out at eighty-one (81) pages Jackass. It is longer than quite a few books. It took several months, and hundreds of hours. It takes dozens of hours every couple months to upkeep. It has been referenced ("clicked on") 42,000+ times, and has nearly 300 replies. On this forum alone, and this is not the only car forum with a copy of that exact thread.
It also answers every single one of the OP's questions. In full, all of them.
Either one of you would know that, if you weren't too damn lazy and pig-headed read it.
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We all know how suspension nazis like yourself feel about lowering springs.
You know absolutely nothing about me child. Not a gawd-damned thing.
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What the OP (and myself) want is FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE running these springs on the street.
The blind leading the blind. Brilliant idea Cupcake.
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NOT your addmitedly-unqualified opinion
My opinions don't matter, nor does yours. What matters is the facts, as agreed upon by every expert that has ever extensively studied our chassis and suspensions.
I'd rather know what one (1) guy with serious expertise knows, than the combined "opinions" of every dumbass that thinks H&R springs are worth a sh*t. Further, there is not just one (1) expert in the Suspension Thread, but dozens.
And I know what all the experts state categorically as facts about our vehicles. Which is waaaay ahead of you Binkie.
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on what is good and proper practice when preparing the car for roadracing or autocross or whatever you were thinking about when that hemmheroid really started burnin on ya, and you unleashed your bitterness and self-loathing on sr20forum.
More insults? Go f*ck yourself you immature child.
You and the OP have no gawd-damned clue. Nor will you ever gain one by listening to a bunch of the equally ignorant that own H&R springs.
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Well, Mr. Nutjob began his comprehensive suspension thread by stating:
Once again, f*ck you and your petty insults.
Let's put in the entire quote jackass. Not an edited version that suits your faulty argument.
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There is a lot of misinformation floating around this forum concerning our suspensions. Perhaps this thread will help to dispel some of that erroneous information. I am no expert, I have very limited mechanical knowledge at best. Therefore, I only quote folks with considerable expertise concerning our suspensions. I provide plenty of links, facts, tech information, and expert, professional advice. Think of this as a collegiate level research paper on B13, B14 and B15 suspensions. Every source gets cited, as it should be.
You know nothing Mr. Slingshot. You are no more an expert than I, with waaaaay less book knowledge, and not a drop more of your precious "first hand ignoramus experience."
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Then he proceded to quote a bunch of other people, like Mike Kojima, who could probably give a rat's ass about daily drivability. While I'm sure the people Shawn B got his second-hand info from know exactly what they're talking about, I think what many of us want to know is how the car will behave under normal circumstances.
The more you open your pie-hole, the more you confirm your abject stupidity and boundless ignorance.
You have no idea who Mike Kojima is, what he has done for this community, how f*cking brilliant he happens to be, his racing, employment and engineering background, nor what he cares about.
Second hand info? Is that like the confirmed factual information in every technical book ever published? Is it all second hand? Perhaps we should burn all the libraries, ignore the facts and expertise of all that have gone before us, start over from scratch, and reinvent fire, the wheel, and animal skin clothing?
You're too much of a douchebag to be believed. Wallow in your ignorance asshat. Listen to the advice of other folks that aren't any more qualified than you to assess a suspension.
I already told you (and the OP) how the H&R's would behave under normal circumstances. You did not like the answers, so you got pissy and went on your insult tirade.
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I bought one of these cars because it's fun to drive and, more importantly, DIRT cheap. I paid 900 bucks for mine, and I don't see $1500 worth of coilovers in my future. Sorry Mr. Kojima.
Don't apologize to Mike, he doesn't care one iota if you buy a sh*t suspension.
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I just wanna know how miserable I would be driving to work on some nice cheap lowering springs. I don't want the car dragging on the ground, just don't want it to look like a skateboard.
Already answered via link.
You'll get what you paid for.
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Good thing there were a few people around who weren't deterred by the suspension nazi to share their real-world experience. That's what forums are for, after all.
Forums are also a place where you should pay attention to, and utilize, The Technical Library. Topics that are already written up, in detail, and deemed qualified by the Administration to archive as certified reference sources.
It gets real old and stale when ignorant, disrespectful, sh*t stain newbs like yourself want to rehash, over, and over, and over, and over a subject that is fully documented. Because you are too f*cking lazy, pig-headed, and full of yourself to actually put in some effort to educate yourself. You don't like the answers handed to you on a silver motherf*cking platter, so you make feeble insults and refuse to accept the facts.
You're a motherf*cking joke Snookums.
Buy a sh*tty, half-assed, suspension. You deserve one.
Shawn B
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I own a 1991 Nissan Sentra Se-R with H&R Springs with SpringTech Shocks. I like it but then it got annoying. I'm actually going to invest in KCSport there about 600 at wholesale cost. I'm also going to Re-do all my bushings too and control arms.
Then I should have a great fully adjustable suspension..
Luis U.
bla bla bla, I'm very very angry for no good reason
I'm not even gonna read all of that. You have serious issues my friend. Best of luck with that.
People come to this site to get information. Most people on the site are clearly not experts. Those people, myself included, come here to learn from other owners' experience. And while suspension-expert/engineer/track-hound knowlege is invaluable, those people usually have priorities and standards entirely different from the average driver.
My car will most likely never see track duty, or autocross, or anything. I bought it because it's a fun, economical, efficient car and I intend to drive the car back and forth to work and that's about it.
I don't really care about technical data. I want to know how the average guy likes the lowering springs on his daily driver. Because clearly some people have had no problems running the horrible evil ricer lowering springs, as evidenced by the handful of posts in this thread alone that say just that.
And honestly man, there is really no need at all whatsoever for all the hostile crap. This isn't a prison yard. It's a car-enthusiast message board. It's supposed to be fun. Calm down.
I own a 1991 Nissan Sentra Se-R with H&R Springs with SpringTech Shocks. I like it but then it got annoying. I'm actually going to invest in KCSport there about 600 at wholesale cost. I'm also going to Re-do all my bushings too and control arms.
Then I should have a great fully adjustable suspension..
Luis U.
dont get k-sports they suck. most of them do not match up with tests. get a set of kyb agx's with ground control coilovers and you should be happy with it.
Shawn - I did a little "ignorant immature child blind jackass cupcake snookums" research, and found the first installment of Sport Compact Car Magazine's Project SE-R.
I'm sure that in your infinite wisdom and prudence you are aware that both your idol and beloved mentor Mike Kojima as well as fellow engineer and certified bottomless-pit-of-car-knowlege Dave Coleman contribute to the magazine. In fact, the article containing the excerpt I've quoted below was written by Mr. Coleman himself.
He states:
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With just the [Tokico] springs and shocks in place, we took the SE-R out to the Streets of Willow Springs, the small, tight road course adjacent to Willow Springs International Raceway. We were shocked at the handling! On the street the ride was firm, but not punishing, but it did seem like it bounced a little on sharp bumps, making the suspension seem slightly under damped. We feared that on the track this might translate into an inability to maintain grip on anything but the smoothest corner. (Tokico's Illumina 5-way adjustable shocks aren't available for the Sentra, so we were stuck using their non-adjustable shocks, otherwise we might have tried dialing out the bounce.) All our doubts about the suspension vanished when we reached the track, though. At speed, the suspension enters it's element; no matter what bumps it encountered on the track, the suspension always settled right back into position. Around corners, the car turned in incredibly well, could actually be induced into slight oversteer under hard trail braking, and would power out of corners in an easy four-wheel drift. (The SE-R's stock limited slip differential proved indispensable when powering out of corners.) It only took a few laps for us to give up on the idea of adding an adjustable rear anti-roll bar. The car was perfectly balanced with the stock bars.
Wait...what is this??? Didn't Grand Imperial Suspension Guru Shawn B officially label the Tokico struts and springs as lame crap? Surely Dave Coleman is mistaken! Maybe Shawn needs to send him a link to his all-encompassing suspension thread to straighten him out, like he does for everyone on this board who dares ask a suspension-related question. That is, after he's finished berating him and calling him an ignorant child moron jackass for contradicting his second-hand knowlege
Not suprising, you are too damn lazy to read articles in our Technical Library that pertain directly to, and fully answer, your questions.
Further, you read the post. You have no responses, and cannot argue worth a damn. But you read it.
I've told you my issues. Asshats like yourself that think you know everything, when you know nothing.
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People come to this site to get information. Most people on the site are clearly not experts. Those people, myself included, come here to learn from other owners' experience. And while suspension-expert/engineer/track-hound knowlege is invaluable, those people usually have priorities and standards entirely different from the average driver.
You have no clue what "priorities" are presented in The Suspension Thread.
NONE, not a the slightest idea of what information is contained therein.
Which "owners" would you like to learn from? The ones with serious expertise? Or the other clueless masses like yourself? I don't present information from dumbasses who know two (2) suspensions, stock and stock length struts with H&R springs, which they have tested with their ass. I present information from owners who have actual expertise and therefore are able to properly assess suspensions and give knowledgeable, professional advice.
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And honestly man, there is really no need at all whatsoever for all the hostile crap. This isn't a prison yard. It's a car-enthusiast message board. It's supposed to be fun. Calm down
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You hypocritical douchebag son-of-a-bitch.
I was not the least bit hostile in post #2 and post #4.
The OP started the festivities.
Then you, in your infinite motherf*cking wisdom, dredge up a three (3) month old thread, and IMMEDIATELY JUMP MY SH*T.
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Dude what the F**K is your problem???
Are you bitter because you spent three hours making a suspension thread?
We all know how suspension nazis like yourself feel about lowering springs.
NOT your addmitedly-unqualified opinion.....
.....when that hemmheroid really started burnin on ya, and you unleashed your bitterness and self-loathing on sr20forum.
You've been on this forum for less than two (2) weeks and have exactly six (6) posts. In your second post on this forum (above), YOU decided (so wisely) to verbally attack me. I have been here for five (5) f*cking years. I have 4,600+ posts. Two (2) seperate threads of mine are in the Technical Library, one of which (The Suspension Thread) is hands-down the longest, most in depth, detailed thread in the entire Technical Library. I spent far more time updating the Suspension Thread on the last round of editing, than you have spent in your entire time on this forum.
So far, you have contributed NOTHING to this forum. You have not shared one iota of "knowledge" of any sort with anybody, for any reason.
Yet, you (Mr. Painfully Clueless 6-Post Newb) want to get on your soap-box and tell me how to behave? After you went on your little personal-attack tirade first?
Are you out of your damn mind?!?
You ASKED FOR and BEGGED FOR hostility. And you got your wish Sweet Cheeks.
Not everyone in this world is as friendly as you would like Precious, especially when YOU start the altercation. I wear a thin veil of civility so that I can semi-fit-in and interact with you tame humans. Further, I'd fit in perfectly in a prison yard, no problems, I'd thrive.
YOU pushed the issue with your very first post in this thread. The veil is dropped. I am unlike anyone you have ever met sh*t-for-brains. Welcome to the real world, where when you run your ignorant mouth to the wrong person, that person may just be an unbalanced, violent, nightmare on f*cking wheels, and might very well just snap your miserable, pompous, insufferable little head right off your shoulders.
Keep your distance, safety and anonymity child. You'd like this conversation faaaaaar less if it were face to face. Of that I can absolutely assure you.
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Shawn - I did a little "ignorant immature child blind jackass cupcake snookums" research, and found the first installment of Sport Compact Car Magazine's Project SE-R.
You f*cking idiot. I have an actual copy of that issue of SCC sitting next to me. I am well aware of that article, I read it when the issue first hit my mailbox via subscription.
You think you can even begin to argue or debate suspension modifications with me, when you took a whole ten minutes to find that ancient link and article? You arrogant, egocentric dolt, I have done several hundred hours of research into our suspensions.
You are quoting antiquated information that has been further re-evaluated, tested and superseded by the author himself.
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I'm sure that in your infinite wisdom and prudence you are aware that both your idol and beloved mentor Mike Kojima as well as fellow engineer and certified bottomless-pit-of-car-knowlege Dave Coleman contribute to the magazine. In fact, the article containing the excerpt I've quoted below was written by Mr. Coleman himself.
He states:
Wait...what is this??? Didn't Grand Imperial Suspension Guru Shawn B officially label the Tokico struts and springs as lame crap? Surely Dave Coleman is mistaken!
That is the first go-round of testing that SCC did on that TOKICO suspension. About a dozen years ago.
Later, upon further evaluation and extensive testing, SCC discarded that Tokico suspension as being underdamped and having way too little travel.
Which is one of the reasons that Mike Kojima (and Chriscar, this forums Administrator) worked with Hypercoil to make the SR20 Exclusive Hyperco Gen I springs. Which were later revised into the Hyperco Gen II's. Which is what the Road Magnets are based upon.
You'd know all of that if you read the thread. It is all there.
You can lead a stubborn jackass to water, but you cannot make him drink.
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Maybe Shawn needs to send him a link to his all-encompassing suspension thread to straighten him out
Dave knows more about our suspensions than you or I ever will.
However, I know everything he has ever published on our suspensions like the back of my hand.
Unlike you, I actually have the book knowledge. You've got nothing. NO book knowledge, no personal expertise. Nothing. Just the moronic drivel spilling unchecked out of your sweet little pie-hole.
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like he does for everyone on this board who dares ask a suspension-related question. That is, after he's finished berating him and calling him an ignorant child moron jackass for contradicting his second-hand knowlege
"Everyone"?!?
Don't exaggerate, and attempt to extrapolate all my posts and answers from this one (1) idiotic thread. The thread that YOU DREDGED UP and then YOU immediately re-kindled into an argument. Nice move Brainiac. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.
Second-hand knowledge? OK Jackass. Get out all your testing equipment. Rent a track. Hire an expert driver. Buy a couple dozen different springs, multiple sets of struts, and a dozen coil-over systems. Purchase a stock B13, B14, and B15. Get yourself an engineering degree, racing experience, and spend some time working for Nismo.
Now that you are ready, go out and get yourself some FIRST HAND experience evaluating suspensions. Spend a minimum of several tens of thousands of dollars, properly evaluate, test, and swap out suspensions on our vehicle(s) till you drop. To do it right should take you several months.
Then extrapolate your results, and report back to us on your personal FIRST HAND knowledge and advice on what we should buy.
^happy? i hope that was sarcasm. your gr2's are probably blown already. and for someone who cant spell V-TEC right sure would know alot about cars and how well suspension works when combined with other key suspension components. you get what you pay for and those springs... are cheap.
Which "owners" would you like to learn from? The ones with serious expertise? Or the other clueless masses like yourself?
Um...I want to hear from the cluless masses. This will be the last time I reiterate this point, since I've done it at least three times already. I want to hear from people who, like myself, don't necessarily have any expertise, but who drive their cars on regular old lowering springs.
I've gleaned from reading your suspension thread and countless posts from other users here and elsewhere that anything more than a 1.5" drop on stock-length struts will turn the car into a pogostick sh*tbox. Wonderful. Thanks for the info. But since you and other dick-riding bandwagon-jumpers have labeled anything other than "CSK" struts or coilovers as worthless rice crap, I decided to dig a little deeper. And voila, Dave Coleman says otherwise. Sorry Sean, but I'm inclined to take Dave Coleman's opinion over that of a bitter, angry, self-loathing old bridge troll like yourself, no matter how many late nights you spent in your nanny's basement quoting people with actual knowlege to make your awesome thread.
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The OP started the festivities.
Dude, the OP showed barely any attitude at all. In fact, I'm not sure he even meant it that way. You came in here and unleashed all your inner demons on the guy. I searched your 4,6xx posts, and surprise surprise there's a sh*tload more hostile nonsense in there.
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Then you, in your infinite motherf*cking wisdom, dredge up a three (3) month old thread, and IMMEDIATELY JUMP MY SH*T.
Normally I would keep my mouth shut and just let a hoe be a hoe, but you really are a special kind of asshole and therefore required special attention. Or at least a little reality check. Judging by the way you're starting to back-pedal, looks like I've provided that for you. You're welcome.
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I have been here for five (5) f*cking years
Ok now I'm impressed
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I'd fit in perfectly in a prison yard, no problems, I'd thrive.[
when you run your ignorant mouth to the wrong person, that person may just be an unbalanced, violent, nightmare on f*cking wheels, and might very well just snap your miserable, pompous, insufferable little head right off your shoulders.
Keep your distance, safety and anonymity child. You'd like this conversation faaaaaar less if it were face to face. Of that I can absolutely assure you.
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WOW!!! You are such a fu*kin badass I can't even handle it. Please don't hurt me sir! I promise you not to insult you anymore. Go fu*k yourself you pathetic little clown. This is not World of Warcraft, and you are not role-playing. Lets drop that cute little fantasy now before you embarass yourself any further. I promise you no one is impressed. In fact, you sound like a 12-year-old child saying ignorant sh*t like that. C'mon guy. Grow the fu*k up.
This is the last place I would expect to find a good old fashioned E-thug, but here you are alive and well after all these years. Maybe you should get yourself a Mustang, and go do some long-distance fantasy asskicking on StangNet. You'd fit right in over there with the rest of the repressed homosexuals with mommy issues who spend hours of their day talking sh*t through their keyboards. What a fu*kin joke you are! Good God.
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Sweet Cheeks....Pumpkin
Save the pet names for your stripper whore girlfriend, you silly bitch.
Um...I want to hear from the cluless masses. This will be the last time I reiterate this point, since I've done it at least three times already. I want to hear from people who, like myself, don't necessarily have any expertise, but who drive their cars on regular old lowering springs.
I've gleaned from reading your suspension thread and countless posts from other users here and elsewhere that anything more than a 1.5" drop on stock-length struts will turn the car into a pogostick sh*tbox. Wonderful. Thanks for the info. But since you and other dick-riding bandwagon-jumpers have labeled anything other than "CSK" struts or coilovers as worthless rice crap, I decided to dig a little deeper. And voila, Dave Coleman says otherwise. Sorry Sean, but I'm inclined to take Dave Coleman's opinion over that of a bitter, angry, self-loathing old bridge troll like yourself, no matter how many late nights you spent in your nanny's basement quoting people with actual knowlege to make your awesome thread.
Dude, the OP showed barely any attitude at all. In fact, I'm not sure he even meant it that way. You came in here and unleashed all your inner demons on the guy. I searched your 4,6xx posts, and surprise surprise there's a sh*tload more hostile nonsense in there.
Normally I would keep my mouth shut and just let a hoe be a hoe, but you really are a special kind of asshole and therefore required special attention. Or at least a little reality check. Judging by the way you're starting to back-pedal, looks like I've provided that for you. You're welcome.
Ok now I'm impressed
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WOW!!! You are such a fu*kin badass I can't even handle it. Please don't hurt me sir! I promise you not to insult you anymore. Go fu*k yourself you pathetic little clown. This is not World of Warcraft, and you are not role-playing. Lets drop that cute little fantasy now before you embarass yourself any further. I promise you no one is impressed. In fact, you sound like a 12-year-old child saying ignorant sh*t like that. C'mon guy. Grow the fu*k up.
This is the last place I would expect to find a good old fashioned E-thug, but here you are alive and well after all these years. Maybe you should get yourself a Mustang, and go do some long-distance fantasy asskicking on StangNet. You'd fit right in over there with the rest of the repressed homosexuals with mommy issues who spend hours of their day talking sh*t through their keyboards. What a fu*kin joke you are! Good God.
Save the pet names for your stripper whore girlfriend, you silly bitch.
Shawn by NO means is a joke. YOU are the fu*king joke. you ask for advice he gave you advice and a link to a thread he has spent a sh*tload of time working on. you come here with your newbie fu*king questions and ask the most common question in this section. "how are these springs" go fu*kING SEARCH DIPsh*t. theres dozens and dozens of threads about springs. if you want to be an idiot go join honda tech. im sure you will find plenty of butt buddies over there telling you to just go ahead and cut your springs and your car will handle just fine but i think im going to stay here on Shawn's side and go with his advice on this subject because he has not only contacted VERY experienced people that have dealt with our cars but he has also contacted companies asking for information about their springs. ask anyone thats met him Shawn is not a person to cross and he is capable of more then you think so respect the man who has been spending his time giving you advice on those springs. he even told you that the only way they would remotely show any good would be on csk's which since you didnt fu*king search means custom shortened koni's. in other words the struts arent stock length. now why dont you go take out your anger about your girl leaving you because you had a small dick that you couldnt get up on someone else. or even better get out of here. it might be a public forum but alot of us dont take kindly to people especially newbies disrespecting members that have been here for a while. take that from someone whos experienced it before. so stop being a hypocrite about being hardcore with the keyboard because thats exactly what youve been doing too and shut up.
Hi. I'm 18 years old. I should really keep my pimple-faced mouth shut when grown men are talking, but I won't because I'm a child and don't know any better.
Is this YOU???
The one sitting in his room in his mom's house shooting at his webcam with his little imaginary pistol?
The one whose myspace says he's from Brooklyn, even though he's really from Poughkipse?
The one rapping about ice and gangster sh*t while wearing a FAKE gold chain and FAKE gold watch, driving a Sentra, living in his mommy's house upstate?
This guy?
Those are some gangsta-ass Frosted Flakes you got there
This guy?
What sign is that you're throwing there toughguy? Or do you have cerebral palsy? Cause that's what it looks like in this picture.
If I were Shawn B, I would ban you from helping me out. YOU, son, are truly pathetic. You should really just never say anything ever again.
PS- your music is complete garbage. I would be embarassed if that accidentally came on my radio while I was pumping my gas or something. You sound like a weak, fake Gucci Mane. Only Gucci is from the South. What's your excuse for rapping like you have Downs Syndrome?
maybe i should go cry because some guy is trying to prove his manhood by calling out a very respected forum member and trying to talk down to an 18 year old
how old are you? youre saying grown men are talking but you have nothing about your age anywhere. ive seen 16 yr olds that are more mature than you. grow a set ans shut the fu*k up. to me you seem nothing more than an immature, prepubescent teenage, e-thug who has no girlfriend, wife, family, friends, or anyone that cares about him so he's spending his time trying to "pick on" an 18 yr old to make himself feel better. grow the fu*k up and get over yourself.
Is this YOU???
The one sitting in his room in his mom's house shooting at his webcam with his little imaginary pistol?
The one whose myspace says he's from Brooklyn, even though he's really from Poughkipse?
The one rapping about ice and gangster sh*t while wearing a FAKE gold chain and FAKE gold watch, driving a Sentra, living in his mommy's house upstate?
This guy?
Those are some gangsta-ass Frosted Flakes you got there
This guy?
What sign is that you're throwing there toughguy? Or do you have cerebral palsy? Cause that's what it looks like in this picture.
If I were Shawn B, I would ban you from helping me out. YOU, son, are truly pathetic. You should really just never say anything ever again.
LMFAO who the hell is that? another cry for attention? yup i bet it is.
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and look for something with a less aggressive drop.
Are you bitter because you spent three hours making a suspension thread?
