se-rj

i wanted to know if anyone is using H&R springs for there b13 i wanted to know some thoughts on them like how the ride is and stufff like that any one have some input???

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Shawn B

I hope not, unless they are paired with CSK's.

If someone has them on a B13/14 with stock length struts and erroneously think the springs are good, then they are ignorant.

With stock length struts, it will suck, you will bottom out constantly.

Like what?

There is a very good reason we have Group Buys on the forum exclusive Hyperco and Road Magnet springs.

All the information you need on H&R springs is answered right here:

http://www.sr20forum.com/driveline-t...formation.html

Best of luck to you.

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se-rj

wow who said anything about stock struts i have set of agx struts just wanted to get some feedback on some springs but thanx i guess

Shawn B

Wow. Are you reading comprehension challenged?

Your AGX struts are indeed "stock length struts." Key word "length."

Which is exactly what you got.

Factual based feedback on H&R springs, paired with stock length struts. Which will suck unless you have glass smooth roads, do not care about prematurely blowing out your stock length AGX struts, and like to bottom out.

"Wow....but.....I guess"? Why the attitude?

You asked the questions, I answered them in full, and included a link to help you out.

No one else has even bothered to so much as reply.

Have you actually read the information on struts (including AGX's) and springs (including H&R's) in that thread which I so kindly provided?

If so, then you would already know that from a performance veiwpoint H&R springs will not work worth a damn on your vehicle.

You're most welcome, sir.

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Ulysses

I have H&R springs on my b13 on kyb agx
Daily Driven everyday. but on fwy they suck!
Im not complaining because they were FREE and NEW
But if i had a choice i would get something else.

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se-rj

i must have not read it theroly but thanx for ur help

se-rj

so then my question is if ppl with the hyperco set ups on agx struts will evntually bottom out also...and iv heard so many good things about these springs???

MR-4Door-SR20DET

^Hyperco's are superior to H&R's. No contest. I have two sets of hyperco's and both of them will be on AGX's,Koni Bumpstops, and 4 front dust boots all the way around.

Shawn B

*Sigh*

General supension ignorance is exactly why I created the Suspension Thread in the first place.

You are still asking questions, without having even glanced at the thread I already posted for your benefit. Your question, like every other one you have posed, is answered in The Suspension Thread.

I have no interest whatsoever in leading you by the hand, spoon feeding you bite by f*cking bite as if you were a brain-damaged pre-schooler, the information that is ALREADY IN the gawd-damned Suspension Thread.

And you have the gall to wonder why I get terse or a bit impatient over your "mere innocent inquiry" on some bullsh*t, piss-poorly engineered, well documented springs?!?

I have some questions for you sir, before I answer any more of your inane, redundant, sophmoric inquiries.

1) Have you read The Suspension Thread, or are you actually reading comprehension challenged? If it is the former, read the thread. If it is the latter, read the thread again.

2) What are the spring rates on the H&R's?!?

3) What are the spring rates on the Hypercoil Generation II springs?!?

4) What is the exact drop with the H&R's?!?

5) What is the exact drop with the Hypercoil Generation II's?!?

6) What is your stock OEM suspension travel?!?

7) How long have you been a member of this forum?!? You sir, are no newb, despite your behaviors to the contrary.

8) When are you going to get with the program and at least browse the Technical Library, find the SEARCH BUTTON, and locate the Stickies?!? Let me know so I can mark it down on my damn calendar.

Have a great day and best of luck to you.

ollieman2005

i love my h&r's and think they ride great. i have been driving with my ignorance since 2005 and think the agx's and h&r's are great. i think what this guy is lookin for is experience. not a god damn scientific equation. mine were free and are awesome. welp now i guess ill get quoted and get a long life lesson......hahahahahahahhahahaha.

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Don't be a retard. If he (or possibly even you) read the thread, you'd be able to figure out pretty quickly that there's really only 2 good springs for a stock length strut.
There's no question that your H&R's suck compared to other performance springs. H&R is generally a good company, they just happened to to screw up this application.
They're only better than stock because they make the car look better, and they are a bit stiffer than the stock springs... before they bottom out and eventually kill your struts.

Also note that any car's suspension will bottom out even when it's completely stock... you just don't want to make it *EASIER* to bottom out. Well not usually LOL.

As for perspective, I thought my previous saturn was a pretty good handling car with BFG KDW's... until I first drove my NX2k hard with winter tires and it handled better LOL. You're probably the same way with your H&R's. You've just never had a great spring on your particular car.

lynchfourtwenty

i have h&r's, they came with the first se-r i got, they suck! we'll daily drivin isnt really that bad.. but take it to an auto-x.. especialy one in a crappy fair ground parking lot, bottom out galore.. if you have money to spend on springs, post a wanted ad for hypercos or road magnets.. an get some csk's other wise just use the stock ones man, hell if i had a stock set i'd prolly use em..

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2dr_sentra

I HAD Agx's and h&r springs, i loved them. Then i bought some tien basics.

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specv88

i got sum H&R too! theyre great!..

Shawn B

That is because you are indeed ignorant.

You would not know a good performance suspension if it bit you in the ass.

The blind leading the f*cking blind.

What you think does not matter. You are an ignorant buffoon.

Scientific equation?!? How about suspension facts? You are clueless, dumb as a rock, and happy in your ignorance.

Sheer stupidity dribbling from that pie-hole in the middle of your face.

That would be correct.

You are clueless as well. "Great" compared to what exactly?

All you unadulterated morons "loving those H&R's" can continue in your ignorance all you like. You are blissfully stupid, and utterly oblivious.

Read The Suspension Thread, or remain suspension-stupid.

And go on to confirm your stupidity and ignorance every time you open your damn mouths.

SUNNYGTR93

LMAO!! Sean B is funny as hell!!!! But right!

lynchfourtwenty

h&r's < eibach on the street its really not that bad especialy if your just lookin to drop the car.. i rarely hit bump stops on the street.. even goin over speed bumps and train tracks.. but im sure my kyb's are hating me for it.. an i will end up payin for it in the end.. but hell the kybs an agx's were free, any kind of performance driving, you will instantly realize why the h&r's suck.. i myself am saving up for CSK's an some road magnets

slingshot

Dude what the F**K is your problem???
Are you bitter because you spent three hours making a suspension thread?

We all know how suspension nazis like yourself feel about lowering springs.
What the OP (and myself) want is FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE running these springs on the street.
NOT your addmitedly-unqualified opinion on what is good and proper practice when preparing the car for roadracing or autocross or whatever you were thinking about when that hemmheroid really started burnin on ya, and you unleashed your bitterness and self-loathing on sr20forum.

THANK YOU to those of you who posted comments from experience on how these springs ride on the street on an average daily-driven car.

lynchfourtwenty

honestly shawn put a hell of alot more time an research into the suspension thread then 3 hours, just a little fyi.

go for the gold, cause there is no silver just bronze