fast4!97

do you all think i should put them on my 97 nissan 200sx se-r..and if you have used them lmk every thning you think please i want the car to still be lower than stock height but i hear you cant lower your car with these??? thanks

Ulysses

cant lower the car with this. these are like a stock replacement. there is a suspension thread search it up and read.

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msamusick

I have them paired with Eibach sportline springs and don't think they're too bad at all.

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And....

http://www.sr20forum.com/driveline-t...formation.html


That is because you don't know any better.

NOT a good combination. Half-assed at best. The Eibach Sportlines are too low and too soft with OEM stock length dampers. You are bottoming out on any uneven pavement, whether you know it or not. Your dampers will have a shortened life-span, no question about it.

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msamusick

We can sit here and have a pissing contest if you want........ The car was my pop's at the time they were put in and yes, it does ride better than it did. I know there are better solutions but since money's tight it's gonna have to wait. Someday in the future I'd like to go with a AGX/Roadmagnet or Hyperco setup. And no, it doesn't bounce off of the bumpstops. My 1st car did every time I hit a pebble so I think I know when I'm bottoming out. You can take a ride with me if you don't believe me

llaprad1

GR2s are better than OEM by a sliver, but I wouldn't use them on lowering springs.

I can't remember the threads or the official consensus, but I think they were equivalent to AGX's set in the middle.

(edit) I found it:
http://www.sr20forum.com/985472-post7.html

I have them, and I was going to pair them with GCs maybe, but keep in mind I Rallycross and drive the car maybe 10 times a year, max.

And I have never been a fan of AGXs anyway.

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Shawn B

No problems here with a pissing contest. I rather enjoy debate of any sort.

It may handle marginally better than it did. On glass smooth roads.

Correct.

I would love for you to take a ride in a Classic with a proper suspension, so that YOU could see and feel the difference.

Right now, your two (2) reference points are OEM-stock, and Eibach Sportlines. An "OK" stock suspension, and a half-assed, poorly engineered, aftermarket suspension.

Further, you have a Sentra SE-R. The OP has a 200sx SE-R.

You sir, have equal to, or less than half (1/2, 50%) of your OEM suspension travel in your B13. With springs that are too soft to keep you off your bumpstops.

You may not know that you are bottoming out, but you are. If not, you have both glass-smooth roads and drive like a grandma.

I bottomed out my Hyperco/AGX (Koni bumpstops) suspension twice (2X) this week alone. I have two-thirds (2/3's, 66%) of my OEM travel, and springs that are approximately twice (close to 100%) as stiff as your Eibachs in the front, and a good 80% stiffer in the rear. I drive quickly on Houston roads. Not slowing down for every little dip, depression, crater, expansion joint, pot-hole and/or other road anomalies. That is why I am upgrading to CSK's, because I still occasionally bottom out.

Further, the Eibach Sportlines for the B14 are worse. Putting them on a B14 leaves the OP with closer to a third (1/3, 33%) of the OEM travel. Specifically, he will have 1.1" of front travel, and 1.1" of rear travel. Stock is 3", front and back.

I am bottoming out with waaaaay stiffer springs than you, and more travel.

The OP in his B14 with your suggested Eibach Sportlines, will have less travel than you, much less than me, and he will be bottoming out.

Are we pissing yet? ....

msamusick

F@ckin Shawn I enjoy a good debate as well but let's try to stay on topic though

Lemniscate

They're equivalent to AGX's set on 1 in the front and 2 in the rear.

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llaprad1

Just curious, since it contradicts what has been posted earlier...where'd you get your data?