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SO, Overkill Engineering Motorsports made me a set of Custom Shortened Konis, Spec V inserts into B13 housings. I went to assemble these today with a buddy of mine with some Road Magnet Springs. One the rear, 4-5 coil s are compressed to the point of touching, and the fronts, several are to the point that they will touch as SOON as they are put on the car and lowered.
My previous setup was AGXs with stock springs. Should I just mount the RMs on the AGXs and take up a complaint with OEM? I have a feeling these were assembled wrong by them. What do you think? Crappy cell phone pic below (sorry, it's all I had at the time):
Far left is one of the rears, and the middle and right are the fronts.
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Originally Posted by Serban
Making your car RHD would be the MOST pointless mod ever. Go get a job for the Post Office, you can be JDM 8 hrs a day.
'92 NX2000VE - SR16's, BC S&R's, Hot Shot intake w/ pop, SSAC header, 2000 SE disc, ACT HD PP, TWM shifter, FSTB & RSTB, AGX's for now, CSK's+RM's on the way, Prothane MM
The parts are at my buddy's house, so no pics. We are going to tackle the job in the morning.
Also, the bottom of the housing looks just like any other stock housing. It's not like there is an obscene amount of insert on the bottom. Each insert was assembled in its proper housing, it seems. I'm thinking more if the inserts themselves are incorrect.
eric96ser: According to everyone, the tighter coils should be along the top. And the consensus that I am getting the from the Dash is that the rears were shortened too much, and they should not have been at all.
eric96ser: According to everyone, the tighter coils should be along the top. And the consensus that I am getting the from the Dash is that the rears were shortened too much, and they should not have been at all.
So they didn't know what they were doing when they made them? Seems to be par for the course with them. Why engineer something when you can just copy someone's design.
looks rears are shortened too much when compared to eric's pic. if you have agx's you could just run those on the rear for now, suspension travel isn't a problem at all in the rear with road magnets (i have them with agx's front/rear).
definitely complain to oem. that job looks so retarded. mark took 2 months to make me a cai, and he even fu*ked that up--nipples on pipe were wrong size.
this problem is all fixed i went to his house we flipped the springs the right way and put them on his AGX's so all is good now
Well, that still does not address the incorrect CSK rears.
I understand that Phor is now using the CSK's in the front, and the AGX's in the rear. But he should not have to use the AGX's in the rear. That situation with the CSK's should be addressed and fixed correctly.
Which is what I would expect if Phor and Mark (O.E.M.) are still in discussions on this purchase.
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Is OEM doing anything about this? Didn't they use spec v inserts in the rear too and shortened them?
From my (limited) understanding, it appears that they did use Spec V inserts and shortened the body too much in the rear.
I understand mistakes being made with a small boutique custom manufacturer catering to a relatively tiny market. Sh*t happens. What really matters is how the mistake is handled and rectified.
Is this a dead issue between O.E.M. and Phor? Are both parties happy with the final outcome or decision? That is what is critical to me.
Straight up, I am looking for someone (or business) to build me a set of CSK's to utilize on my Classic, with Hypercoil Gen II springs. Because I am willing to pay someone to do this for me, I would expect that they know exactly what they are doing. I would be paying for their expertise and mechanical chops. Therefore, if I even attempted to order something that would not work correctly, I would expect them (the person or company) to correct my (ignorant) order before any work is done. "Yo Shawn, you cannot use Combination-X as stated. What you need is to use Combination-Y in order to build these properly for use with Hyperco II's and a bolt-on application."
Shawn B
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2004 Tahoe, stock and fully loaded.
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well we put all for agx's back on with the roadmagnets and as far as i know he is happy with that for now as far as the messed up rear struts we will just have to wait and see what happens
Originally Posted by Shawn B;2549068
Straight up, I am looking for someone (or business) to build me a set of CSK's to utilize on my Classic, with Hypercoil Gen II springs. Because I am willing to pay someone to do this for me, I would expect that they know exactly what they are doing. I would be paying for [I
their expertise[/I] and mechanical chops. Therefore, if I even attempted to order something that would not work correctly, I would expect them (the person or company) to correct my (ignorant) order before any work is done. "Yo Shawn, you cannot use Combination-X as stated. What you need is to use Combination-Y in order to build these properly for use with Hyperco II's and a bolt-on application."
Shawn B
I built my own CSK and it was pretty easy. I took it slow and cut a little at a time until they fit perfect. I did this to use with GC sleeves, but the only difference between mine and what you want, is I cut most of the lower perch off. As far as the rears go, it looks like a simple drop in, but I'm not 100% since I have not done these on the rear of a B13, since I have a B14.
Sorry it's been a while, school's been kicking my ass. Shawn B, I actually do NOT have the CSKs in the front and AGXs in the rear. I went with the AGXs all the way around. I know I could have used the fronts but I wanted to make sure that this was addressed.
I have heard NOTHING from Mark at OEM regarding this. I emailed him the same picture that was posted here and he thought I was referring to the piston not being straight. He said it would straighten out. He didn't even acknowledge the compression on the springs, and when I replied back about it, I have yet to hear anything about it.
So as it stands, the car is driving but not with that I paid good money to install. Sadly, the CSKs are simply sitting in the trunk of the NX.
And Shawn, AGAIN, I completely agree with you. if I pay good money to have something built for me, I expect a certain level of expertise and knowledge to come along with it. Had I known that they rears should not have been shortened, or mores o had THEY known, i would have expected that knowledge to be brought to my attention with a solution that works. So for right now, I am just waiting, a pretty unhappy customer, indeed.
Dang thats messed up, I've been hearing bad things about OEM for the past few weeks. I wonder what the deal is. I have bought 2 small items from them just to kind of feel out the service and quality. Wasn't amazed with either so decided to look else where for bigger things. Hope everything ends well and you get to ride on those CSKs.
Thanks man. And yeah, I hope that things work out for the better. Right now, I'm just being patient because in reality, I HAVE a car that drives and I'm not going to be during my upgrading over the winter; just maintenance and if I can hold off til spring, I will. Thanks for the support.
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