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I had a shop, a good spring compressor(mounted to a wall), a lift and a professional set of tools. Took me about 2 and half hours to get them off and back onto the car. I used energy suspension bump stops that I bought from autozone.com.
I have KYB GR-2's. The ride is not bad at all, stock seemed stiffer/more bouncy some how. Before I put my tools up for the day, I went around and hit some speed bumps, did some u turns, etc. The right front was making a popping sound when turning, I lifted the car and repositioned the spring and it's good now. I'm also riding on stock wheels and G force tires of stock size. The car feels PLANTED. I worked half the day too, replaced the rear rotors, and put in a fender splash shield. So I was too tired (mainly of working on cars, not exhausted) to allign the car.
I'd say if you have a B13, want your car a little lower, and a little stiffer, or you have some other type of aftermarket springs that suck, and don't wanna go the full coil over route, BUY THESE WHILE YOU STILL CAN. Parts are not getting more plentiful as time goes on. Jump on the next group buy, you'll be impressed.
I'll take pictures tomorrow when there is some light.
Group Buy #1 Spring rate B13: 325 front, 250 rear
Group Buy #1 Drop B13: 1.5" front, 1" rear
Ballpark price per set: $225.00
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Originally Posted by Robchaos19 via PM
Has it been mentioned in the suspension thread that on the classic the rear fender lip measures lower then the front and can give the impression that the drop in the rear is a little lower then it really is? That has caused some confusion among a couple people.
It has been mentioned now sir.
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Originally Posted by BeastieBerge
It took me an hour and a half to do the entire install.
The Drop looks good and it rides nice. The springs are stiff. Stiff enough, but not too stiff. Car doesn't lean but my back doesn't hurt when I get out of it. I used to have an SER with an ES master kit, Suspension Techiques sway bars, front and rear strut bars, and a lower control arm brace. My NX's suspension is stock except for the springs. Both had 40 series tires. I'd say my NX handles slightly better than the SER did.
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Originally Posted by Benito Malito
These are plenty stiff. Exacty as advertised. They are nicer than GC because the noise is eliminated. They are a bit too low, but it looks so good. they are the proper stiffness and it is not at all harsh. They are way better than Eibach sportlines, H&R, and e-bay dogisht springs. This is no imposter spring.
Hyperco the only one comparable and sit a bit higher. Good luck getting a set for less than $330 shipped. Even used.
With AGX which is the most common choice they run just fine, even when they bottom out. Which they do when you really kill it. It may dog leg going into gas stations. I get a kick out of this.
My suspension has a Whiteline lower bar, Cusco upper, and ES on everything except the steering rack. I also has a Nutech rear sway bar, with Shigpseed brace, and the AT rstb. So its pretty stiff for a b13. I have 195/50/15 with 512 ziex falkens. The RM's hold their own with this set-up. I'd buy another set with my next SE-R.
I recommend grabbing up shortened Koni's for this spring. That would be the hot-shti set-up. Plus the blue will look cool on yellow. I'll know soon for sure.
Based on the specifications and forum member feedback, these springs are certainly a quality performance alternative and better value than any mass manufactured, off the shelf spring (see "Other Springs" below, all of which are lame). Further, as stated by Benito, with CSK's these springs would undoubtedly be flat-out excellent.
Originally Posted by Robchaos19 via PM
I am slightly amending the drop height in the front for the B13 springs to 1.25" instead of 1.5" and I am also offering B14 springs, but specs have not quite been finalized yet. I will keep you updated on the B14 springs as we work things out. Thanks Rob
I have KYB GR-2's. The ride is not bad at all, stock seemed stiffer/more bouncy some how.
The bouncy part is because the GR2's don't have enough valving. They're basically a stock replacement strut. When you have the coin, upgrade those puppies.
I have had GR2's on numerous spring setups and there is rarely any bounce. You may have blown struts. I actually have had better experiences with the GR2's than the AGX's for daily driving comfort and all around performance on the "streets".
I am in the market for springs right now thats why I am posting. This is for my B13.
I have had GR2's on numerous spring setups and there is rarely any bounce. You may have blown struts. I actually have had better experiences with the GR2's than the AGX's for daily driving comfort and all around performance on the "streets".
I am in the market for springs right now thats why I am posting. This is for my B13.
For conventional springs you have two (2) good performance choices.
Hyperco Gen II or Road Magnets.
Those two are your only performance options. The rest of the mass produced conventional springs are both too low and too soft.
As for being bouncy, that was with stock springs. The struts aren't blown. It was never extremely bouncy like I felt it was out of control and undampened.
At the center of the fender lip I am 24 inches above ground at all 4 corners.
Handling, all I can say is it feels more planted in corners. I don't do a lot of high speed cornering during my daily drive. The most tire screeching I do is when It's 5 o'clock and I have to blast through a break in traffic and make a u turn, it understeers during this but not badly. The sunday after this, I'm going to go auto crossing. Again, since I've never auto xed with stock springs I won't have a way to compare. Pro thane mounts made a big difference in how cornering feels. Engine flopping around is not good.
They don't make any abnormal noises. When I first installed them, the spring in the right front would pop when I went from lock to lock with the steering. I lifted the car up and rotated the spring with my hand and it went away.
The car is a freaking rattle machine. Prothane mounts + 190,000 miles = interior rattles. That's what stereos and mp3 players are for.
Skcusloa??
