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all b13s have those seatbelts. the "automatic" idea is leaving it buckled. you can still get in and out and your seatbelt is on "automatically" what a stupid idea.
All 2 door B13's had "automatic" seatbelts. They were not motorized like a p10 though, they are the normal door mounted belts but they were intended to be latched at all times. When you opened the door you were expected to slide out from under them.
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All 2 door B13's had "automatic" seatbelts. They were not motorized like a p10 though, they are the normal door mounted belts but they were intended to be latched at all times. When you opened the door you were expected to slide out from under them.
wow, stupid. Is it that hard to buckle and unbuckle them?
Regardless, I was lol'd at the manual trans option quip. In 93-94 they had the autotragic option.
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ok, i get what you're talking about, both the top and bottom of the belt is attached to the door, so i could open the door with the seatbelt on and get out of the car. i never even realized that before, i'll have to try that out when i get my b13 back from the shop.
All 2 door B13's had "automatic" seatbelts. They were not motorized like a p10 though, they are the normal door mounted belts but they were intended to be latched at all times. When you opened the door you were expected to slide out from under them.
Thank you. How hard is this to grasp? This thread has gotten besides the point. The b13 se-r was praised back in the day. I still have the car and driver issues(3 of them in a row) where our cars were one of car and drivers top ten. The description of them is what hooked me, even though I knew it in my own head back then, this is an amazing car in stock form, especially the era in which it was made. I wish nissan would keep up with the times, and this "old" car might not be so popular. The new spec-v versions of the se-r only come close to what they are about. 0-60 in the seven second range aren't good enough anymore. Nissan could build on the sr-20 with variable valve timing and some forced induction, or improve on the QR line with a turbo, or twin turbos, and god forbid an all wheel drive version. With all this in place nissan would always come up in disussions about evos and stis. But instead, they are stuck making "sporty" subcompacts that can barely compete with the same subcompacts the produced themselves 15 years ago. Untill they can do this, I'm happy surprising mustangs and civics in my relitively stock se-r. When I throw a turbo in the mix they won't even be able to look my way. Why can't we lust for something new, again?
wow, stupid. Is it that hard to buckle and unbuckle them?
Well the thing you have to remember is that the only reason the seat belts were done like that is to comply with the new mandatory passive restraint regulations that went into effect around 1990. It was too expensive and in some cases too short of a timeframe to redesign some cars for air bags that were already in production or close to it. The manufacturers came up with the silly automatic seatbelts as a stopgap measure.
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The b13 se-r was praised back in the day. I still have the car and driver issues(3 of them in a row) where our cars were one of car and drivers top ten. The description of them is what hooked me, even though I knew it in my own head back then, this is an amazing car in stock form, especially the era in which it was made.
Heh I'm the same way. I was a Junior in HS when the magazines started previewing the SE-R and I was hooked after I read about it. I still have the old C&D mags with the preview test, the road test, the comparison test w/the MX-3 and the Storm, all 3 ten best issues, the long term test issues, and the economy issue where they featured it.
Well the thing you have to remember is that the only reason the seat belts were done like that is to comply with the new mandatory passive restraint regulations that went into effect around 1990. It was too expensive and in some cases too short of a timeframe to redesign some cars for air bags that were already in production or close to it. The manufacturers came up with the silly automatic seatbelts as a stopgap measure.
Heh I'm the same way. I was a Junior in HS when the magazines started previewing the SE-R and I was hooked after I read about it. I still have the old C&D mags with the preview test, the road test, the comparison test w/the MX-3 and the Storm, all 3 ten best issues, the long term test issues, and the economy issue where they featured it.
You can still get a "passive restraint" discount from some insurers so make sure to mention it. Its an odd thing because of how dangerous this type of belt really is.
It makes me miss my Aztec Red 1992 model.
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There he goes one of gods own prototypes. A high powered mutant of some kind not even considered for mass production. Too weird to live and too rare to die
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I hope Nissan realizes that the new SE-R is failing miserably and in need of some attention before it goes out of production for good! If not someone needs to tap them on the shoulder and say, "bring back that sr20 sentra if you want to start selling those spec v's". Maybe it'll give em a clue to what they're doin wrong. a bigger four cyl is not always the answer. It worked then and it sure as heck would now. If it ain't broke don't fix it kinda thing.
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I hope Nissan realizes that the new SE-R is failing miserably and in need of some attention before it goes out of production for good! If not someone needs to tap them on the shoulder and say, "bring back that sr20 sentra if you want to start selling those spec v's". Maybe it'll give em a clue to what they're doin wrong. a bigger four cyl is not always the answer. It worked then and it sure as heck would now. If it ain't broke don't fix it kinda thing.
The problem is that they found that selling the SE-R label is easier than making fun cars. The insurance angle is true too. The Classic is still more expensive to insure than a 91-94 Corolla or equivalent. Its cheaper and easier to look fast and tell people its fast.
The newer SE-Rs may suck in our minds but there sure are more of them out there. As far as the almighty dollar goes it is our SE-R that was a failure and the only thing it is good for is co-opting its legacy.
if i were to go to nissan/infiniti and talk about what they need to do with the new sentra, here's what i would say.
take the 2.5 platform they have going on with the new spec-v, turn it into a coupe, rebadge it as an infiniti, make it look kind of like a g35 or g37, then call it the g25.
keep the 4 door platform of the spec-v, put an sr20vet in it, possibly make it all wheel drive, but probably not to keep it as light as possible.
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The problem is that they found that selling the SE-R label is easier than making fun cars. The insurance angle is true too. The Classic is still more expensive to insure than a 91-94 Corolla or equivalent. Its cheaper and easier to look fast and tell people its fast.
The newer SE-Rs may suck in our minds but there sure are more of them out there. As far as the almighty dollar goes it is our SE-R that was a failure and the only thing it is good for is co-opting its legacy.
very true indeed. That is because Nissan had made the careless mistake to sell the b13 so cheap, being that the company itself didn't even realize the greatness of the spirited car they had created. I guess Nissan is just doing what they are supposed to do- make money.
very true indeed. That is because Nissan had made the careless mistake to sell the b13 so cheap, being that the company itself didn't even realize the greatness of the spirited car they had created. I guess Nissan is just doing what they are supposed to do- make money.
^ I know money is money and it does what it does, but I think that is sh*t! I can't stand it when I see ragged out 4door B13's. I will change they way they are viewed were I live when I'm done with my other project. GO SR GO!
The idea of making money by mass producing a sub-par sub-compact is ridiculous. Sure, the amount of money to produce a new spec-v can't be much more than the cost of making the base model. And the idea is to keep this se-r name going, but they might as well call it a GT. Anybody can have one. Limit production a little more (some people are attracted to the idea of thier car not blending in at a parking lot) and charge more money for it. Instead of having a 2000 dollar difference between the se and the se-r make the difference more along the lines of 7 grand. Put some of the price into R&D (you can put out the baddass porsche swalling gt-r, for god's sake) and make it kick some evo and st-i ass! What else does nissan have to compete in this ever-growing segment?(ex. dodge srt-4, vw gti, mazdaspeed 3, sti, evo, the list goes on) What they will probably do is exactly what we want, but the se-r name will mean nothing: maybe they will call it the Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec-V GT-R Limited edition
GO SR GO!