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I'm getting set to install a JDM 4-fog and I'm a little concerned about how light the JDM support is. I took a good look at my OEM support and I can't find a way to use it with the JDM bumper cover. Even if I did I wouldn't be able to mount the foglights. I know someone did it with a 2-fog but there is just no way with the 4-fog. So I guess I'll be using the JDM support. I've read somewhere that the USDM bumper support also provides some structural rigidity because it connects the two support brackets, let alone how much beefier it is than the JDM one. Does anyone know how much of a role the USDM bumper support plays in providing stiffness to the chassis?
The only other thing that worries me is with insurance. I might be screwed after a front end crash if they determine that I installed a bumper support that does not meet North American standards.
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There is a complete adapting kit for the bumper and the 4 fogs. The 4 fog setup is sold here in Mexico as Tsuru Golden Kit, but the instruction manual is totally in spanish.
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Ya. I guess I'll just toss that bumper then. Thanks tips.
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Originally Posted by GSRMx
There is a complete adapting kit for the bumper and the 4 fogs. The 4 fog setup is sold here in Mexico as Tsuru Golden Kit, but the instruction manual is totally in spanish.
The kit let's you use the factory support? I'd be interested in that but I thought the Tsuru 4-fog skin had different mounting clips than the Sunny. Or is it an exact replica of the Sunny bumper skin. I'm really more curious to know if the USDM support provides any extra chassis strength.
The kit let's you use the factory support? I'd be interested in that but I thought the Tsuru 4-fog skin had different mounting clips than the Sunny. Or is it an exact replica of the Sunny bumper skin. I'm really more curious to know if the USDM support provides any extra chassis strength.
It is exactly the same as the Sunny bumper. Fogs are imported from Japan, bumperskin is molded in Mexico, Nissan just brought the injection mold to make them here.
The kit includes many pieces of hardware, so you can put them on the USDM or MDM support. The foglight bracket is cut and you have to bolt on another different piece that goes underneath, hold by the long bolt that goes into the support bracket.
It is exactly the same as the Sunny bumper. Fogs are imported from Japan, bumperskin is molded in Mexico, Nissan just brought the injection mold to make them here.
The kit includes many pieces of hardware, so you can put them on the USDM or MDM support. The foglight bracket is cut and you have to bolt on another different piece that goes underneath, hold by the long bolt that goes into the support bracket.
Now I'm really intrigued. I must find some pics of this adapter kit to see how it works. When I put the US and JDM supports next to each other I couldn't find any workaround for it. Interesting.
Now I'm really intrigued. I must find some pics of this adapter kit to see how it works. When I put the US and JDM supports next to each other I couldn't find any workaround for it. Interesting.
I can scan the instruction manual if you wish. This adapter kit was developed by design engineers at Nissan Mexicana, everything comes in plastic bags with the Nissan logo printed on them. Even a licence plate adapter plate comes in the kit.
I can scan the instruction manual if you wish. This adapter kit was developed by design engineers at Nissan Mexicana, everything comes in plastic bags with the Nissan logo printed on them. Even a licence plate adapter plate comes in the kit.
It is exactly the same as the Sunny bumper. Fogs are imported from Japan, bumperskin is molded in Mexico, Nissan just brought the injection mold to make them here.
The kit includes many pieces of hardware, so you can put them on the USDM or MDM support. The foglight bracket is cut and you have to bolt on another different piece that goes underneath, hold by the long bolt that goes into the support bracket.
are you sure its exactly the same? did you do a side by side comparision.
Ya. I guess I'll just toss that bumper then. Thanks tips.
honestly it would take a very VERY well trained eye to notice the differance between a JDM and USDM support. do you honestly think an insurance inspector could tell? VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYY UNLIKELY.
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Theyīre exactly the same. Besides, the instructions clearly state that the bumperskin is intended for japanese reinforcement, but with modifications it can fit. It instructs you tu cut out many pieces from the inside. The adaptation is not easy, requires quite work. If you follow the instructions step by step, it will take you at least 5 to 6 hours. You need to cut, drill, bend, etc.
I donīt have a super saloon bumper to compare, but I do have a two fog GT-S bumper I got from a boneyard in Guatemala, and the inner part is identical.
Pics, awesome! You're right, the bumper covers are the same. I take it that applies to the foglights as well. Do you know if that adapter kit can be bought seperately or do you need to buy the whole bumper kit to get it? Now I'm really curious to see how the adapter works, assuming the the MDM and USDM bumper supports are the same. I looked at my USDM support and the JDM support side by side and couldn't figure out a way to modify the USDM support to fit the foglights.
honestly it would take a very VERY well trained eye to notice the differance between a JDM and USDM support. do you honestly think an insurance inspector could tell? VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYY UNLIKELY.
aside the insurance...
if you anal like me yes you can tell from the outside. would you spot fake volks and work wheels? Or a lutton vutton handbag, etc....I can. so depending on an individual you have your opinions. With me I wont sport fake shiznit why fake the funk.
if you anal like me yes you can tell from the outside. would you spot fake volks and work wheels? Or a lutton vutton handbag, etc....I can. so depending on an individual you have your opinions. With me I wont sport fake shiznit why fake the funk.
on word to discussion and back on topic.
The issue with the insurance company would be liability if the JDM support is not up to Canadian mandated standards. The only reason the SE-R was never sold in Canada is because of those door mounted seatbelts.
Pics, awesome! You're right, the bumper covers are the same. I take it that applies to the foglights as well. Do you know if that adapter kit can be bought seperately or do you need to buy the whole bumper kit to get it? Now I'm really curious to see how the adapter works, assuming the the MDM and USDM bumper supports are the same. I looked at my USDM support and the JDM support side by side and couldn't figure out a way to modify the USDM support to fit the foglights.
The adapter kit canīt be bought separetely, but I know many people buy the kit and donīt use most of the adapting hardware, I myself have some leftovers.
The foglights wonīt bolt onto the USDM support, you need to cut off the uper part the bolts onto the JDM support, and a two angle piece is provided to bolt on the bracket, basically the lights are supported by the long screw that bolts the support to the frame, underneath.
The adapter kit canīt be bought separetely, but I know many people buy the kit and donīt use most of the adapting hardware, I myself have some leftovers.
The foglights wonīt bolt onto the USDM support, you need to cut off the uper part the bolts onto the JDM support, and a two angle piece is provided to bolt on the bracket, basically the lights are supported by the long screw that bolts the support to the frame, underneath.
I got my stuff back from the bodyshop and it came out cheaper than expected so I have some extra cash. So, if anybody can put together an adapter kit for me I can pay you(reasonably) for the effort. I'm especially interested in the instructions on what needs to be done to the stock support.
The issue with the insurance company would be liability if the JDM support is not up to Canadian mandated standards. The only reason the SE-R was never sold in Canada is because of those door mounted seatbelts.
wow i learned something new. something that i would never thought about lol
