brokeser

^^Spherical bearings...Mmmmm... I would pay to have something like that in the rear suspension. I have had the ES master kit installed for 3 years..they do not like cold weather or lack of grease. I grease 'em once a year, Thank God for Alabama weather not staying cold very long, I possibly would have to do them more often...
The rear gets hung up on lightly bumpy roads especially in turns, it skips and thumps like a live axle...but less so in the summer..

I'm trying to find a solution.....but everything I've searched so far has not given me a clear answer with pics (gotto love visual aids )...or at least a tried solution along with where to get it..but I guess that should be another thread..

I've even given some thought of buying oem replacement for the whole rear suspension with only the Hyper/AGX/Progress..

Ohh..well..

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Shawn B

Did you do ES bushings on the rear trailing arm? If so, you have suspension bind. You should change the trailing arms back to OEM bushings, even if you have to buy pre-owned trailing arms.

I've actually read that post previously. He's the only guy that I have seen even mention such a thing. I'm in the middle of my work week, I'll do more searchin' and Googling on Monday or Tuesday.

You may be correct. I will do a search on this one. As you can see, I did not include much on the JGY diff. I do understand that the JGY and Phantom grip are very similar in both execution and function.

I will figure it out and get it fixed in the thread.

EDIT: Fixed for now, to at least be accurate. I will dig up some threads on JGY's LSD as well. Gracias!

Hell, I still can't figure out what the hell a mechanical differential is vs. a VLSD. And I'm putting together the suspension thread. .......

Please clarify for me your statements.

1) So...no harness with just a harness bar? You should have a full roll bar and race bucket if you are going to use a harness? Then what is the point of a harness bar? You should only use a harness bar if you have a roll bar and race bucket?

2) Uh....yup.

I think I am missing something, I know you are light-years ahead of me mechanically. Please elucidate further sir, keep in mind my high ignorance level.

ROAD MAGNETS: I am still awaiting some form of proper testing as you gentlemen are discussing. And/or very knowledgeable folks giving direct feedback after having driven with the springs on the car. I'll quote them, Bennitto, you qualify.

I know Road Magnets would work fine with CSK's. I am also confident they would be better than any of the other commercially available springs. The H&Rs, Pro Kit, and Tokicos all drop the car from 1.25 to 1.3 inches front and back. Those springs would definitely only work with CSK's and do NOT have a high enough spring rate to be used effectively with OEM length dampers and that drop.

With stock length dampers and Road Magnets there is a legitimate concern. While the front spring rate is up 25 pounds (12%) over the Hyperco's, Road Magnets lose an extra half-inch of the suspension travel. Doesn't sound like much until you realize that another half-inch drop over the Hypercos is 25% of the remaining travel.

The jury is still out, test away gentlemen.

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THANK YOU for ya'lls input, assistance, and suggestions. I sincerely appreciate it.

Shawn B

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b13magoo

Here is a couple leads Shawn:
http://www.ground-control.com/
http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?fo...ction=category
http://www.caranddriver.com/glossary...f-terms.html#h
Look over halfway down the page for some more info:
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/pr..._300zx_part_6/
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/pr...ject_300zx_tt/
Hope some of this helps out with your thread

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Shawn B

Damn Goo! Kick-ass, thank you.

It's the forums thread my friend, lots of folks have contributed. I am just the....caretaker. Librarian perhaps? Chief Information Gatherer?

To be incorporated shortly.....

EDIT: I already stuck in the C&D glossary. LOL.

robchaos19

If you guys like, I could do the zip tie thing and take the car out later today and beat the F out of it (some hard cornering and high speed maneuvers for a couple minutes) in this big empty parking lot that is about 10 minutes away from my house. It might not be a proper autoX but it could a pretty good idea of whether the spring rate is enough to keep it from bottoming out.

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Benito Malito

I did the zip tie ting, and took it out for a good drive with the Road magnets, and AGX on 2 front, 4 rear. The fronts hit my stock bumpstops which are chopped in half, and the rears came within a few mm.

I'm gonna go up to 3 front and 5 or 6 rear and see what happens.

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jerryeads

At the autox today we bumped the fronts (AGX) up to 3 from my street 2 setting and on what I would suggest is a very rough course, it helped a fair amount. It still hits the stops (AGX bellows with uncut integrated stops). On the way back I discovered that 3 is not at all intolerable on the street. Will probably take the rears up from 4 to 5. While I can't drive fer squat, someone who CAN spent a bunch of his time bringing me along a bit (THANKS BIGB) suggested both and also cranking the rear progress bar up from medium to full stiff.

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While I think that is a good reason to get a rollbar for serious racing, I think you can use a harness without the bar. At least I hope so! I've been running a schroth harness in my car for about 5 years now and I love it, but more importantly I think (hope?) it is a lot safter than the POS stock belts on the B13. Fortunately, I haven't had to test it yet... It is HIGHLY recommended that you don't use the rear lap belt anchor points for the top belts of a harness as it appears that our stock seats are not very strong (and accident force would compress the seat...and your spine ). However, I have my top belts anchored to the rear c-pillar seatbelt anchor (the two top belts merge into one belt, like a "Y") which means there's no downward angle to the belts, so the stock seat shouldn't play a factor. Rollbar + harness > no rollbar + harness > no rollbar + OEM belts. Right?

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robchaos19

What setup are you running?

robchaos19

thank you for doing this test Bennitto. Let us know how it goes with the settings turned up a little.

From what I read off the first post in the groupbuy, the Hypercos also lower the car about the same as the road magnet springs do. " the spring rate is 300lb front / 200lb rear, with a 1" to 1 ½" drop"

maybe if we could get someone with a Hyperco/AGX setup to do the same test with the same settings so we could get an idea of how RMs compare.

Shawn B

Excellent idea. I am trying to be very impartial in this thread. Just looking for facts and/or evaluations that have reasonable credibility. I understand that we cannot go do full magazine-style testing. But some real world, credible, feedback from the daily drivers and auto-crossers is exactly what we need.

Benito Malito

The drop on the hyperco is about a half inch less.

Stock


GC front raised


RM front looks higher in this one


Hyperco II


Just cause (damn I loved this SE-R)


Well that didn't help because to me the RM looks higher in the front than the Hyperco , and its not. The RM is more slammed and stifffer than Hyperco. I like the RM's, but steep curb cuts like gas stations and my Taco Bell are a bit tough to navigate cause its pretty low. the RM, (like Hyperco) is not comparable to Eibach or Drop zone or any of those sh!t drop springs out there.

edit. The hyperco/B14 are 205/50/15's, and the RM/flik blast-c's are 195/50/15 so they don't take up as much fender space.

robchaos19

Yeah man. Train tracks and steep curbs own me. Do your front struts have 4 or 8 settings?

hpro123

On a related note, it seems that forum members actually provide more information on porducts than the manufacturers themselves!!! If only they knew how to spread the word and actually PROMOTE their products we would all be much happier!!!

In this spirit (and with all the common disclaimers), K-SPORT has been sorrowly lacking in product promotion...

Here then is the New K-Sport productlineup for the B13 !! (and others I assume but everyone with his own love)...

http://www.ultrarev.com/Ksport-m50.html

Interesting finds... 2 higher-end coilovers from K-Sport in addition to the standard one we knew until now...

Standard: Ksport Kontrol Pro Damper Coilover System Nissan Sentra (B13) 1990-1994
Higher: Ksport Version RR Damper Coilover System Nissan Sentra (B13) 1990-1994
Highest: Ksport GT Pro Damper Coilover System Nissan Sentra (B13) 1990-1994

Shawn B

No doubt on manufacturers spreading the word poorly. Don'tcha think they would have discovered large car forums by now?

I just "discovered" B+G products (springs and coilovers) for our cars while in the B14 section of the forum. Yep, they make stuff for the B13 as well. Just added B+G yesterday to the thread.

I'll get on these K-sport additions tonight after work.....

Do you realize how many suspension choices are really available for our cars?!? It may not be Honda-esque, but it is still a boatload of suspension options for our ancient econoboxes.

With this addition, there are eight (8) currently available coilover systems for the B13.

Gracias for your continued contributions.

Benito Malito