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Old 11-29-2007, 12:32 PM   #201 (permalink)
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if you want cosmetic drop.... there's MANY to choose from... but trusted and performing springs.... no choice but Hyperco or Road Magnet
Just quoted again for the hell of it.
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Suspension Thread updated.

It's under "Recomended Set-Ups", the last section of the body of the text.

Great work and follow-through, thanks for the addition.
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Old 12-24-2007, 10:00 AM   #203 (permalink)
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read this post awhile back and was honestly a biit scared due to the negative remarks or opinion on the tien stech springs. the problem was that cop these already and was not happy with the statement.....

"Tein S-Tech and H-Tech - (Applications: B14 and B15 only) http://www.tein.com/stech.html

B14 S-Tech: 2.4 inch drop front, 1.1 inch drop rear.
Struts To Use: Will not work well with any struts.
Front spring rate: Kilograms force/mm 3. Pounds/inch 168.
Rear spring rate: Kilograms force/mm 5. Pounds/inch 280.
Retail: $240.00

i however still put them on with some brand new gr2's and the ride was no good...and with the measurement of a 2.5" drop i thought wow man u read it and is the same results. i spoke with a tien vendor and he said that i should carry the car to let he get a look and with a simple recomendation of kyb special street adjustable 4 way shocks the cars hieght was increased to 2" and the ride is now a dream.....she handles like theres no corners on the highways. the type of car that i have is the n15 nissan pulsar 3dr hatchback, which shares the same suspension parts as the b14's. this is not so say that the statement was totally wrong but that the possibility that there r shocks that can offer u a great ride with the stech springs r out there.

n.b. the settings that it is on now is 2.

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Old 01-07-2008, 08:30 AM   #204 (permalink)
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read this post awhile back and was honestly a biit scared due to the negative remarks or opinion on the tien stech springs. the problem was that cop these already and was not happy with the statement.....

"Tein S-Tech and H-Tech - (Applications: B14 and B15 only) http://www.tein.com/stech.html

B14 S-Tech: 2.4 inch drop front, 1.1 inch drop rear.
Struts To Use: Will not work well with any struts.
Front spring rate: Kilograms force/mm 3. Pounds/inch 168.
Rear spring rate: Kilograms force/mm 5. Pounds/inch 280.
Retail: $240.00

i however still put them on with some brand new gr2's and the ride was no good...and with the measurement of a 2.5" drop i thought wow man u read it and is the same results. i spoke with a tien vendor and he said that i should carry the car to let he get a look and with a simple recomendation of kyb special street adjustable 4 way shocks the cars hieght was increased to 2" and the ride is now a dream.....she handles like theres no corners on the highways. the type of car that i have is the n15 nissan pulsar 3dr hatchback, which shares the same suspension parts as the b14's. this is not so say that the statement was totally wrong but that the possibility that there r shocks that can offer u a great ride with the stech springs r out there.

n.b. the settings that it is on now is 2.
1) How did "KYB Special Street Adjustable Shocks" change the ride height? If you are using conventional springs, you can only change the ride height (altering the suspension travel) with the springs themselves, not with the struts.

2) If your cars (N15) suspension travel is the same as a B14's, then you have 00.60" of an inch front suspension travel with those springs. Period. That is about 1.25 centimeters of travel in your front suspension in which "the ride is now a dream." Pardon my skepticism over your analysis.

*IF* somehow the springs were magically made to drop the car less, and you went from a 2.4" drop to "only" a 2.0" drop, you still have a meager 1/3 of your original OEM suspension travel. One (1) inch or 2.5 centimeters to be exact. Which means you are riding on your bumpstops in the front of the vehicle.

3) What is your road-racing, engineering, and automotive background?

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this is not so say that the statement was totally wrong but that the possibility that there r shocks that can offer u a great ride with the stech springs r out there.
I am not a suspension expert, a mere student.

However, IF the N15 has an identical suspension to a B14, then you are flat-out incorrect. There is no possibility whatsoever that any shocks will offer you a "great" ride with STech springs.

Until you can provide me with evidence that the N15 is designed with more front suspension travel than a B14, I will stand by my statements as supported by the experts presented in this thread.

Please edjucate me on the differences in suspension travel between the N15 and B14 that would support your assertations.

Thank you.
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:07 AM   #205 (permalink)
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i spoke with a tien vendor and he said that i should carry the car to let he get a look and with a simple recomendation of kyb special street adjustable 4 way shocks the cars hieght was increased to 2" and the ride is now a dream...
1) Never heard of those struts.
2) Only way to increase hieght in a car is either to change the spring or move the perch. It makes ZERO sense that a mass market producer of struts would raise the perch on a car. Sure they could but I have never heard of that happening. There is a possibility that some smart manufacture realizes what smart people on this forum already know. "99% of oem style drop springs are too low" So, I being a smart manufacture decided to raise the perch AND build a shorter strut. Until I saw that in some more substantial way I would think the above is VERY unlikely.
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:01 PM   #206 (permalink)
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wish i would have read this thread long ago.

great information.
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Then you get pissy, belligerant, and your panties get bunched up when someone, namely me, tries to actually help you with a couple of links?!?

Are you f*cking kidding me?!?

You sir, are an unmitigated selfish, egocentric, self-absorbed, DOUCHEBAG and can go f*ck yourself.

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Old 04-10-2008, 07:30 AM   #207 (permalink)
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i already read the strut bar section, but I cant find information about adjust the upper strut bar.

is better pull or push to the sides on the top of the struts?
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Old 05-03-2008, 11:38 AM   #208 (permalink)
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any information on these? they make them for b13/b14/b15. ive heard good things about them for different car platforms (eclipses) never heard about them on here

http://www.meganracing.com/products/...d=751&catid=93
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Old 05-03-2008, 01:55 PM   #209 (permalink)
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any information on these? they make them for b13/b14/b15. ive heard good things about them for different car platforms (eclipses) never heard about them on here

http://www.meganracing.com/products/...d=751&catid=93
Damn good question.

I have no idea on the overall quality, spring rates, travel, damping characteristics, etc.....

At $1,050.00 those are in the right ball-park price to be competitive with the lower-end Tien product.

I would love to know what veilside180sx, choaderboy2, or 98sr20ve has to say about them. Basically anyone who really knows their suspension sh*t. As opposed to me.

However, I will include this in my next update on The Suspension Thread and, as always, quote you as the original source.

I've gotten behind on updates over the last few months due to heavy family issues. A subject on which I do not wish to elaborate.

Gracias.
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Old 05-03-2008, 11:07 PM   #210 (permalink)
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new find for you to add
http://www.erzperformance.com/product_p/gt-ns03.htm
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The New NEX Racing GT Coilover is a vast improvement over traditional coilovers, which required the movement of spring perch to determine the ride height, and which in turn, caused a reduction in suspension travel, and induced coil spring binding. But NEX Racing GT Coilover comes with a varied range of height adjustments without the need to change spring compression, and sacrificing the shock stroke. With a 4-way adjustable rebound rate, and the bottom shock fork/connector threaded to allow height adjustments to each driver’s specific requirements, and that too without having to shorten the suspension travel, these shocks sure rock! The drivers’ convenience is paramount consideration in the design of the new NEX Racing GT Coilover. The following striking features of these revolutionary shocks set them apart from their competitors:

Coilover Features

Steel Upper Mount – You don’t have to disassemble the original shock units to complete the suspension kit. Equipped with steel upper mounts to help in equal distribution of weight and force of the shock tower, and the high-density rubber pads to reduce road noise and prevent damage to car alignment, the NEX system is indispensable for the diligent car owners.

High Molecule Force Coil Springs – Made from cutting-edge technology of high molecule forced steel, the coil springs in the NEX suspension have shown much greater resistance to wear and tear than its counterparts. The high spring rate used in the NEX suspension signifies sustenance of efficiency for longer duration of time.

Adjustable Ride Height – NEX makes it easier to adjust the height without changing the spring compression and sacrificing the shock stroke. Unlike the traditional Hi-Low Coilover Kits, NEX threads the bottom shock fork/connector, which allows height adjustments according to each driver’s specific requirements, and that too without having to shorten the suspension travel. The varied range of height adjustments signify that with NEX, the driver can set his car as per his preference of appearance, without tampering with the factory-tuned spring/shock suspension system.

Inner Bump Stop – Another striking, yet invisible, feature of NEX Coilover is the inner bump stop, which prevents damage to the inner structure of the shock due to frequent and violent compression impacts from the road surface.

Twin-tube shock absorber – Twin-tube shock absorber is a benchmark for modern suspension systems. It is considered indispensable for all kinds of driving activities, viz. touring, rally, or F1. The twin-tube shock absorbers cool off much faster than any other shock absorbers resulting in the prevention of shock cavitations (i.e., boiling of the shock oil at high temperature), which allows the suspension to perform better under extreme driving conditions.



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The New NEX Racing SS Coilover is a vast improvement over the traditional coilovers. With a wide range of height adjustments without changing the spring compression and sacrificing the shock stroke, the NEX Racing SS coilovers have revolutionized the traditional coilover industry, which relied on the movement of spring perch to determine the ride height, which in turn, caused reduction in suspension travel and induced coil spring binding. NEX Racing SS coilovers thread the bottom shock fork/connector to allow height adjustments to each driver’s needs without having to shorten the suspension travel by maintaining the original spring perch location. Now with the NEX Racing SS coilovers, the driver can easily lower the center of gravity to achieve better handling without sacrificing ride quality.

Steel Upper Mount – You don’t have to disassemble the original shock units to complete the suspension kit. Equipped with steel upper mounts to help in equal distribution of weight and force of the shock tower, and the high-density rubber pads to reduce road noise and prevent damage to car alignment, the NEX system is indispensable for the diligent car owners.

High Molecule Force Coil Springs – Made from cutting-edge technology of high molecule forced steel, the coil springs in the NEX suspension have shown much greater resistance to wear and tear than its counterparts. The high spring rate used in the NEX suspension signifies sustenance of efficiency for longer duration of time.

Adjustable Ride Height – NEX makes it easier to adjust the height without changing the spring compression and sacrificing the shock stroke. Unlike the traditional Hi-Low Coilover Kits, NEX threads the bottom shock fork/connector, which allows height adjustments according to each driver’s specific requirements, and that too without having to shorten the suspension travel. The varied range of height adjustments signify that with NEX, the driver can set his car as per his preference of appearance, without tampering with the factory-tuned spring/shock suspension system.

Inner Bump Stop – Another striking, yet invisible, feature of NEX Coilover is the inner bump stop, which prevents damage to the inner structure of the shock due to frequent and violent compression impacts from the road surface.

Twin-tube shock absorber – Twin-tube shock absorber is a benchmark for modern suspension systems. It is considered indispensable for all kinds of driving activities, viz. touring, rally, or F1. The twin-tube shock absorbers cool off much faster than any other shock absorbers resulting in the prevention of shock cavitations (i.e., boiling of the shock oil at high temperature), which allows the suspension to perform better under extreme driving conditions.(done)
both seem to be cheap and poor quality from what im reading
NOTE:NEX Racing does not have a website that i could find

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- Spring Rates: 8kg Front and 6kg Rear

- 32 Levels of Adjustable Damper
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Old 05-04-2008, 07:17 PM   #211 (permalink)
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i already read the strut bar section, but I cant find information about adjust the upper strut bar.

is better pull or push to the sides on the top of the struts?
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Old 05-08-2008, 01:02 PM   #212 (permalink)
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You can update your motivational information in the coil spring section.

This is a direct quote from their site:

All Nissan parts have been discontinued due to lack of support. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. We will no longer answer Nissan related questions. Thanks to those of you who did support our Nissan products.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:04 PM   #213 (permalink)
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Nex are another Tawainese garbage coilover like KSport/D2.
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I'm sorry I didn't copy everyone else's setup. If you need a preacher to tell you what mods to put on your car, the Reverend Veilside180sx might have a suggestion.
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