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Old 02-04-2005, 10:04 AM   #81 (permalink)
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yo jon,you better put that sh*t back together,i'm comming by saturday to pick it up!lol
how did you make out w/ the other stuff still in the car.let me know i'm off on saturday,i can head up there early.later
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I was told that the 1999 P11 transmission isn't stronger than a regular B14 or B13 transmission. Can someone confirm this? Thanks!
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Old 02-04-2005, 11:43 AM   #83 (permalink)
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I was told that the 1999 P11 transmission isn't stronger than a regular B14 or B13 transmission. Can someone confirm this? Thanks!
That is true. The 99 G20 has the same tranny as the B13/B14. I have the 99 G20 FSM as a PDF file and have already checked to see which tranny it had.
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Old 02-04-2005, 11:46 AM   #84 (permalink)
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I just took the trans apart. The diff definitely looks different. I'll try to get some pics up this weekend. I noticed alot of big differences in the trans, Nissan made some very good changes.
Yes, it has a different VLSD than the B13/B14 trannys. Matter of fact, everything is different.

http://www.sr20forum.com/driveline-transmission/101560-b15-p11-tranny-why-its-better-than-b13-b14.html
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Old 02-10-2005, 01:22 PM   #85 (permalink)
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First off, awesome information, including your recent post on installing an aftermarket LSD. You definitely make tranny work look less like a black art!

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That is true. The 99 G20 has the same tranny as the B13/B14. I have the 99 G20 FSM as a PDF file and have already checked to see which tranny it had.
This is only partially true. The '99 P11 case is definitely different than the B13/B14. It has the cooling fins and appears to be reinforced to reduce flex. But it definitely does not have all the reinforcements of the '00 P11 case including the very interesting reverse gear setup. I am hoping to have mine on the ground in the next month or so where I will compare the case in more detail to a P10/B13/B14 case.

Anyway there's not a lot of info on the '99 case breaking under power. Ive run mine over 270 whp on a daily basis for over 2 years without a problem. Now Im sure a lot of breakages are a result of driving style, but I do think that the stronger case helps avoid shearing gears from improper mating.

The '99 P11 tranny also has the SE-R gear ratios which may be more suitable for turbo applications. But I guess more 1st and 2nd gear wheelspin is preferable to a spun 3rd gear In any case, I definitely agree that the +00 P11 or B15 tranny is stronger than any other SR transmission.


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Old 02-10-2005, 06:06 PM   #86 (permalink)
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The '99 P11 is still an RS5F32A/V. The build plate off the firewall was attached to the one I bought. I've also fitted my PAR gearset and Nismo LSD straight into it.

Like MrFancyPants said, the case is finned and does look stronger. The internals of the '00 model looks more like the RS5F50A/V.
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:02 PM   #87 (permalink)
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By chance does anyone have the transmission mount for a 99+ P11??? I need one for my swap from auto to manual.

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Old 02-10-2005, 11:01 PM   #88 (permalink)
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By chance does anyone have the transmission mount for a 99+ P11??? I need one for my swap from auto to manual.

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If it is the same as a P11 2002 mount...then I have one
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Old 02-11-2005, 12:21 AM   #89 (permalink)
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would imagine, so since my tranny is from a 2000...Ill shoot you a pm about price

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Old 03-01-2005, 06:29 PM   #90 (permalink)
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SER-Rawkus thanks for the mount...got it a while back in great condition....Now does anyone happen to have a rear motor mount for a 99+ manual P11??
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Old 03-01-2005, 10:02 PM   #91 (permalink)
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sorry if this is a repeat question but i dont want to read 6 pages, but do you use the b15 axels or the b14/b13 axels?

you use b13/b14 but if you get a b15 with open dif then you have 2 use 98 ser axles or 99 selaxles both must have a prduction date later then 10/97
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Old 03-02-2005, 05:53 AM   #92 (permalink)
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How about flipping it over too? I guess that it looks fatter than the P11 one too...
i just flipped mine over (p11 trans) in my b13 and it worked just fine. ill try and get pics later this week since my motor/trans is currently out of the car
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:57 PM   #93 (permalink)
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Well my b15 trans is finally done and the car is back up and running. I have some new information for those who are going to be doing the swap in the future.

1: First off if you have a 98 ser or 99sel and get a b15 with locking differential it will require new axles.

2: If you have a 91-97 ser trans currently and get a b15 with open diff it will require a new divers side axle. This can be sourced from a 98-99 ser or sel with a production date after 10/97. However even with the new axle it is still a very tight fit.

3: I put an open diff b15 into my b14 and the shift linkange required no modifaction however the rear trans mount did need a fair amount of grinding. My suspention techniques swaybar also needed a fair amount of gringing to clear the shift linkage.

4: I was at first worried about running the open diff tranny however after driving the car it is offical that the factory lsd was do all of nothing for me before. This may not be the with cars making less power( mine is currently 285whp 293 ft lbs) but for me the tires were breaking loose at almost the exact same point as with the lsd.

These are just a few things that i think may be of a little help to someone considering doing the swap. I will get pics sometime this week and post them on the b15/p11 trans install thread.
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Old 03-17-2005, 04:42 PM   #94 (permalink)
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ok guys im going to buy a new tranny its either going to be a p11 or b15 now for my question.i have found a 99p11 for a good price 580 shipped to my door should i buy this or try to find a newer p11 or b15 tranny.
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Old 03-17-2005, 05:18 PM   #95 (permalink)
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The '99 P11 trans is the same as the B13/B14 trans. If you're looking for something stronger, you should find a different one.
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Old 03-17-2005, 07:28 PM   #96 (permalink)
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well i bought the 99p11 so i dunno. I needed a tranny bad plus everyone wants 8 to G for a b15 or a newer p11 so.How exactly is this 99 p11 tranny the same as the b13-14 doesnt it have the same case as the b15 i know the gears ratios are the same as the se-r.Has anyone actually broke or stripped 3rd gear in a 99p11 tranny?
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Soooo ...if I got all the information digested right..... for my 98 SER, I want the 2000 or later B15 w/vlsd and will need axles from the same doner car??

.... and the lightened flywheel and ACT clutch I currently have on my B14 will work just fine??..... Right
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Old 03-18-2005, 04:15 AM   #98 (permalink)
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Soooo ...if I got all the information digested right..... for my 98 SER, I want the 2000 or later B15 w/vlsd and will need axles from the same doner car??

.... and the lightened flywheel and ACT clutch I currently have on my B14 will work just fine??..... Right
Flywheel, clutch, and throwout bearing the same, and IIRC the axles are the same too. Its somewhere in this post.
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Old 03-18-2005, 11:51 PM   #99 (permalink)
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Well....... YINGTIRY wrote:

1: First off if you have a 98 ser or 99sel and get a b15 with locking differential it will require new axles.

So whats the accurate statement...... for my 98 SER.... I plan on getting the B15 from a 2000 or later Sentra SE or G20T.... (I think) and might as well get the axle's while I'm there...... but only if they are needed as the salvage yard will want some additional presidents to part with them.... Any clarification here would be appreciated as things are starting to get a little conflicting the further this thread goes....Thanx

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Old 03-19-2005, 01:32 AM   #100 (permalink)
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Well....... YINGTIRY wrote:

1: First off if you have a 98 ser or 99sel and get a b15 with locking differential it will require new axles.

So whats the accurate statement...... for my 98 SER.... I plan on getting the B15 from a 2000 or later Sentra SE or G20T.... (I think) and might as well get the axle's while I'm there...... but only if they are needed as the salvage yard will want some additional presidents to part with them.... Any clarification here would be appreciated as things are starting to get a little conflicting the further this thread goes....Thanx

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Since your '98 SE-R came with an open diff. transmission, the driver's side axle is different from VLSD-equipped cars. I believe the passenger side axle is the same. You could get a driver's side axle from a VLSD-trannied car ('95-'97 SE-R or '00-'01 SE w/PP) and it should fit fine
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