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Old 03-19-2005, 01:54 AM   #101 (permalink)
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well i bought the 99p11 so i dunno. I needed a tranny bad plus everyone wants 8 to G for a b15 or a newer p11 so.How exactly is this 99 p11 tranny the same as the b13-14 doesnt it have the same case as the b15 i know the gears ratios are the same as the se-r.Has anyone actually broke or stripped 3rd gear in a 99p11 tranny?
Sorry, the 99 P11 tranny is just like a B13/B14 or P10. It has the same design gearstacks, rear bearings, and reverse idler gear setup along with everything else. There may be some miniscule differences but nothing significant. The case is not the same as the B15 or 2000+ P11 as those trannys have the reverse idler gear pinned into the actual case along with many other design differences.
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:55 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Hangon. Too much flak. I get the impression that you use the appropriate axles for your recipient car, not from a donor car. If you have a '98/99 SE-L, doesn't that mean you'd need axles from a '95-97 SE-R (one with a VLSD)? I doubt that B15 axles would fit anything that isn't a B15.
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Old 03-19-2005, 07:50 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Hangon. Too much flak. I get the impression that you use the appropriate axles for your recipient car, not from a donor car. If you have a '98/99 SE-L, doesn't that mean you'd need axles from a '95-97 SE-R (one with a VLSD)? I doubt that B15 axles would fit anything that isn't a B15.
...but then again...my b13 axles fit perfectly inside my P11 tranny
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Old 03-21-2005, 01:56 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Which is what I'm saying. If you have a B13, use B13 axles. If you have a B14 or P10, use B14 or P10 axles. Don't use P11 or B15 axles unless you're putting them into a P11 or B15.
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Old 03-21-2005, 04:03 PM   #105 (permalink)
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I think what he is trying to say is that the tranny isnt usually the issue its the spline pattern on the hubs....


evidently the splines on the tranny axle imputs are all the same but the hub splines between B13, B14, P11 are different

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Old 03-21-2005, 04:26 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Top: P11
Bottom: B14

both drivers side axles. Tranny side and hub sides do have slight differences...and for the record, www.raxles.com will make hybrid axles, so if your putting a B14 tranny into a P10 you can get those axles made.
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Old 03-21-2005, 07:29 PM   #107 (permalink)
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I saw where Trans RS5F50V was mentioned in this thread ..... but I could not find the actual specs & gear ratios on this..... I found one with that code on it and know its a B15..... but am not quite sure what the specific code means.... any additional help would be appreciated.... Thanx

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Old 03-23-2005, 11:34 PM   #108 (permalink)
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I think that the next thing to watch for is the SE-R Cup guys to use this transmission. Then we'll know how much power they can take, rather, for how long they can take power.

I think that we need to see if a clutch-type coupler or ATB device will work in this transmission next...
I want to use the P11 tranny on my race car. My only concern is if the Quaife unit that I use in my B14 tranny will fit inot the P11 00-02 tranny.

I called a dealer that is very helpful and he told me that the VLSD part number is the same for the B14 tranny and the P11 tranny, but the final drive part number is different. From the looks of the tranny case for the P11, it seems that Nissan went with a smaller final drive in size to make it fit. The FD ratio, however, stayed the same for the B14 and the P11.
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Old 03-24-2005, 12:10 AM   #109 (permalink)
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I have a B14 VLSD+final drive unit and I would like any of you who will open your tranny in the future to give me the dimensions of the VLSD+final drive on the P11 00-02 tranny. That is the only way short of buying a P11 of knowing whether a B14 VLSD or Quaufe will fit into a P11 tranny.
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Old 03-24-2005, 12:31 AM   #110 (permalink)
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Top: P11
Bottom: B14

both drivers side axles. Tranny side and hub sides do have slight differences...and for the record, www.raxles.com will make hybrid axles, so if your putting a B14 tranny into a P10 you can get those axles made.
the top one is a non LSD one, by the looks of it. the LSD ones have long splines to go through both parts of the diff.
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:38 AM   #111 (permalink)
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Guys give this another few days, and I'll tell you about my experience in running the B15 2.0 VLSD trans with a 1.8 gear stack and 1st thru 4th with the 2.0 5th gear and the Nismo dif and ring gear from my B13.

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Old 03-24-2005, 09:21 PM   #112 (permalink)
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so, your nismo diff worked in the B15 tranny?
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Old 03-25-2005, 12:07 PM   #113 (permalink)
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so, your nismo diff worked in the B15 tranny?
I've yet to drive on it, but as soon as the last piece of brass gets here I will. It all appears to be good to go.
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Old 03-31-2005, 10:03 PM   #114 (permalink)
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Now here is my question when installing this trans in to a b14 what modifcations do you have to do the the axle to make it work?
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Old 04-01-2005, 03:09 PM   #115 (permalink)
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"evidently the splines on the tranny axle imputs are all the same but the hub splines between B13, B14, P11 are different"

NX$paniard: I was under the impression that the biggest issue is axle length.

"I saw where Trans RS5F50V was mentioned in this thread ..... but I could not find the actual specs & gear ratios on this..... I found one with that code on it and know its a B15....."

Stackdaddy: The RS5F50V is an older Maxima transmission. I've never seen it used in a Sentra, but it'd probably fit with enough welding and grinding.

"Guys give this another few days, and I'll tell you about my experience in running the B15 2.0 VLSD trans with a 1.8 gear stack and 1st thru 4th with the 2.0 5th gear and the Nismo dif and ring gear from my B13."

Once again, Greg Vogel is my hero. I just want to know if you can get over 60 MPH in second gear with a 205/45-16 tire...which it looks like you could.
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Old 04-08-2005, 12:11 AM   #116 (permalink)
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Guys give this another few days, and I'll tell you about my experience in running the B15 2.0 VLSD trans with a 1.8 gear stack and 1st thru 4th with the 2.0 5th gear and the Nismo dif and ring gear from my B13.
Whoa, wait a minute Greg. Thought of something after we talked today regarding the final drive. I understand you are moving the B13 ring gear over BUT that engages the pinion gear which is part of the main shaft. They have to both match or be the same set if you will. So you must be using the B13 main shaft, and sliding all the B13 1-4 gears off, then sliding all the 1-4 1.8 gears on, then using the 1.8 input shaft, and finally using the 5th gear input and main shaft from the 2.0 B15 tranny?
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Old 04-09-2005, 01:57 AM   #117 (permalink)
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i think the pinion is seperate from the output shaft.
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Which is what I'm saying. If you have a B13, use B13 axles. If you have a B14 or P10, use B14 or P10 axles. Don't use P11 or B15 axles unless you're putting them into a P11 or B15.
does this apply when intstalling a non-lsd trans, too? I'm confused, I think. if not, which axles?
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Old 04-10-2005, 09:50 PM   #119 (permalink)
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If you're putting a B15 LSD transmission into a B14 SE (no LSD), the impression that I get from this thread is that you need B14 LSD axles. If you're putting a B15 Non-LSD transmission into a B14 SE, then you need non-LSD axles. Use the axles for your FINAL application, NOT your donor or even your recipient. If I'm getting this wrong, oh wise ones, PLEASE correct me. This is just the impression that I get.
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Old 04-10-2005, 11:51 PM   #120 (permalink)
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you are correct sir!!
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