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I have an AEM 30-1601U made for the s13 sr20det. I want to use it on my new project, GTi-R motor in a b13. The AEM you are supposed to use for that is the 30-1600U. After reveiwing the pinouts, all the dedicated pins are the same, the only pins in the harness that are different are the PNP and avail pins.
So in order to use the 30-1601 on an app that wants the 30-1600, do I just need to physically re-pin the harness at the connector for the changed PNP and avail pins, or should I just be able to change the specific pins function in the FULL OPTIONS LIST.
And last, if I were to just load up a .cal startup file into the EMS, would that automatically change the PNP and avail pins to what the gti-r requires.
I am at work and cannot access my AEMPro software right now to try and change the pin options, I will try later tonight, but any input would be great.
Jeremy
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RIP 92 S13 fully built with stnadalone and gt30r
91 B13 GTi-R AWD/RHD conversion in progress
07 Impreza Wagon
F/S
VOLK te37 brz 18", a ton of S13 misc parts, OS-giken super lock 2 way LSD fully adj, OS-Giken super single clutch, s13 short block, s13 blktop head
I would repin the socket connector. Do you intend on using the multi-coil ignition?
Would you like an idea of what timing/fuel figures the GTiR likes as a comparison?
Yeah, that would help. I have the stupid base maps, but you know how they are.
I am going to runt he wasted spark at first as I need to focus on the AWD and RHD conversion first. It would just be nice to plug in the AEM and gain a bit of power over stock with a part I already have using all the stock gti-r components
BUT, is that really necessary. All the dedicated pins are exactly the same. The only difference is the PnP and the avail pins. SMracing on freshalloy uses the same AEM to run a KA and a RWD SR with out having repinned everything. Reason is all the dedicated pins are the same, even though the KA calls for the 30-1600 just like the gti-r. But he is using a 30-1622 for both.
He had said since it is only the PnP pins that are dif, all of them are software controlled, so I should not have to worry about it, because as I said before all the dedicated pins are the same.
He had said since it is only the PnP pins that are dif, all of them are software controlled, so I should not have to worry about it
I don't know anything about AEM's stuff, but if someone familiar with your issue says you don't have to, I'd trust them. My stand-alone (VEMS) is very similar, in that you can control all of the outputs in software. No need to re-pin stuff. So it doesn't seem far off that you'd have the same situation.
I was saying repin if you setup all your in/outs on the AEM already and don't want to re-do all that. You have have to make some sensor changes, but that is simple.
Brent
Because that's what he has, and he doesn't want to sell this one and buy a new one (losing money on the transaction)?
Yep, i been using the 1601U for the last 3 years and want to continue to use it on a different app. They are all universal if you dont mind re pinning when necessary. Just trying not to. I will post the pinouts for both.
Next time I will just buy haltech and then I will only have to buy patch harness or be forced to make my own instead of this stupid shizzle.
I mean PnP is nice, but now it is a pain. I like to use my $1500 ems for more then 1 car you know, with out it beaing a pain in the ass
Overall i think can repin it out .. no issue on it if you know the pin well
but if not mistaken . 1601 is based on coil pack so maybe you need to work on this issue
Oh, and the KA and the SR shares the same pinout for OBD1 cars which is why that group had nothing to change.
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Brent
Yeah so all the SR have the same pinout for OBD1 as far as the dedicated pins, here are the pinout links. I cant figure out how to do screen shots and post em.
Here is the link to all the pinouts. You can lookat the 30-1601, what I have and compare to the 30-1600 pinout, which is what I will use the 1601 in place of.
Overall i think can repin it out .. no issue on it if you know the pin well
but if not mistaken . 1601 is based on coil pack so maybe you need to work on this issue
Yeah, you just change the software setting to work for wasted spark. I can do that until I go to a LS1 cop setup. KA owners that use the 1600 have changed to the LS1 cop and they just used the dwell time and ign settings from the sr
They are all universal, they just put a vehicle specific female socket in the EMS and send it out preloaded with software
Here are the pinouts to help you all see the dif in the rnn14 pin and the s13 for me to use the 30-1601 box on the application the 30-1600 box was intended for.
