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Old 08-05-2007, 02:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Showing total post count and renaming 'rating'..

Hi!

I'm posting this thread to get the total # of posts by each member option added on this board and to rename 'Rating' to 'Trader Rating'

I post to a lot of boards and being able to see the total # of posts a member has really helps distinguish who is a senior member and who is more fresh to the board. Knowing the total post count of a member comes in handy when someone needs to sift through information from all the posters. Majority of the time, someone with a high post count will have a more informed opinion about a problem over someone with a low post count due to better exposure to the forum.

I also think 'Rating' should be renamed to 'Trader Rating' to not be confused with someone's rating on the board as in possessing more knowledge over someone else. The term 'Rating' can be a little confusing and misleading to newer members and guests.

I bring up these ideas only in the best interest of the board and its members. If anything, maybe one or both of these ideas could be temporarily implemented and see how everyone likes the new format.

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Old 08-05-2007, 02:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi!

I'm posting this thread to get the total # of posts by each member option added on this board and to rename 'rating' to 'trader rating'

I post to a lot of boards and being able to see the total # of posts a member has really helps distinguish who is a senior member and who is more fresh to the board. Knowing the total post count of a member comes in handy when someone needs to sift through information from all the posters. Majority of the time, someone with a high post count will have a more informed opinion about a problem over someone with a low post count due to a better exposure to the forum.

I also think 'rating' should be renamed to 'trader rating' to not be confused with someone's rating on the board in possessing more knowledge over someone else. The term 'rating' can be a little confusing and misleading to newer members and guests.

I bring up these ideas only in the best interest of the board and its members. If anything, maybe one or both of these ideas could be implemented and see how everyone likes the new format.

Thanks for reading.

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usually goes by year of register but then again thats not true.... but this forum u gotta get to know everyone and youll learn whos the BIG bosses are haha (mods) and who are people that know there stuff vs those who take a guess and dont know how to just keep it shut lol.
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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oh yeah the rating is under your name and u can see what sellers/buyers had to say...also theres a blacklist for the bad guys(well not necessary bad but sales/buys gone wrong)
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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usually goes by year of register but then again thats not true.... but this forum u gotta get to know everyone and youll learn whos the BIG bosses are haha (mods) and who are people that know there stuff vs those who take a guess and dont know how to just keep it shut lol.

There's a difference between being an active member who posts a lot and being a long-time member. Just because someone joined in 2001 doesn't mean that they are active and contribute a lot to the forum. Post count + join date would be the strongest indicator. We already got join date, we just need to add post count. Also, how big or small this forum is shouldn't dictate how readable and organized it should be.

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oh yeah the rating is under your name and u can see what sellers/buyers had to say...also theres a blacklist for the bad guys(well not necessary bad but sales/buys gone wrong)
Yes, I'm suggesting renaming what it says now, which is 'Rating' to 'Trader Rating'.

Thanks for the comments.

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Old 08-05-2007, 02:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
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post count does not cuase theres alot of guys that just post weird or not benefical to our car threads so a actually count would yes give u numbers but then again doesnt mean they contributed....some people have under there name FORUM SPONSER which they help out hte forum in some supportive way(think its money for one example..others not sure but they are supporters)
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:32 AM   #6 (permalink)
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post count does not cuase theres alot of guys that just post weird or not benefical to our car threads so a actually count would yes give u numbers but then again doesnt mean they contributed....some people have under there name FORUM SPONSER which they help out hte forum in some supportive way(think its money for one example..others not sure but they are supporters)
True, but most of those people who post in the off-topic sections STAY in the off-topic sections. They will rarely make their way over to the help sections.
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:35 AM   #7 (permalink)
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True, but most of those people who post in the off-topic sections STAY in the off-topic sections. They will rarely make their way over to the help sections.
not true lol psssss its getting worse too lol
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:46 AM   #8 (permalink)
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not true lol psssss its getting worse too lol
You can keep saying it's not true, but it is true. It's obvious that it isn't a fool-proof solution. It's just another way to help people sift through the information on the board.

I've made thousands of posts on so many other boards. People with 2500 posts, the great majority of the time, will have better advice than someone with 20 posts. 9 times out of 10 people who post in the off-topic section of forums seem to stay there and do the great majority of their posting there.

Post count is the best indicator of a member's knowledge of the forum. It is better than join date and along w/ join date + post count it is a pretty good indicator of what someone knows. From my vast personal experience with a large number of various boards I visit related to my hobbies, it has always held true. Actually, this is the only board I visit these days that does not have the post count displayed.

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Old 08-05-2007, 02:50 AM   #9 (permalink)
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True, but most of those people who post in the off-topic sections STAY in the off-topic sections. They will rarely make their way over to the help sections.
Off topic posts are not counted twoard your final number of posts. The mods arn't going to put the post count back anytime soon, and especially not because some new guy starts a thread about it. Theres no post counts show because not all big posters know what there talking about and people shouldnt take what others say for being 100% accurate due to there big number of posts. I have nearly 6 thousand posts and I wouldnt consider myself a guru of anything. So my best advice is if you wanto gauge someones knowledge based off post count just view there profile and its in bold.
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:59 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Off topic posts are not counted twoard your final number of posts. The mods arn't going to put the post count back anytime soon, and especially not because some new guy starts a thread about it. Theres no post counts show because not all big posters know what there talking about and people shouldnt take what others say for being 100% accurate due to there big number of posts. I have nearly 6 thousand posts and I wouldnt consider myself a guru of anything. So my best advice is if you wanto gauge someones knowledge based off post count just view there profile and its in bold.

It's interesting that if you have 6,000 posts all in forums that were not off-topic how you could not have absorbed enough information to consider yourself knowledgeable.

Also, I never said that members should consider what someone says to be 100% accurate. Nothing the mods can do to cure a member's inability to accept post count as an indicator and not a sign from SR20 gods that they are 100% accurate. The majority of people who view forums understand what post count is...just a total count of all the posts. It's an extra indicator to help people sift through information. What is way more misleading than post count could ever be is the 'Rating' label. That needs to be changed to 'Trader Rating'.

Also, it's impractical to view everyone's profile each time to see what their post count is. You would agree that's a ridiculous idea.

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Old 08-05-2007, 03:08 AM   #11 (permalink)
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It's interesting that if you have 6,000 posts all in forums that were not off-topic how you could not have absorbed enough information to consider yourself knowledgeable.
I have some knowledge I said im not a guru. Some members are gurus and have alot less posts than me but they dont post as much hardly at all. You just have to learn the turds from the nerds.
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:33 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I have some knowledge I said im not a guru. Some members are gurus and have alot less posts than me but they dont post as much hardly at all. You just have to learn the turds from the nerds.
Again, how small or large a board is shouldn't dictate how organized it should be.

You are failing to see the correct format from a new members point of view. Keep the best interest of the members and the board in top view.

When a new member joins, they see 'Rating'. wtf, rating could mean all sorts of things. I'm sure a lot of people first see it as a way to gauge how much a member knows. They may think it's the same thing as 'Reputation' which is an option other boards have. So first and foremost I'm sure we all can agree that 'Rating' should be changed to 'Trader Rating'.

When a new member joins, they don't know who the "turds and nerds", as you put it, are on the forum. They have no clue. The only thing they have to go off of is join date and forum supporter icons, including the ever-misleading 'Rating' count.

Total number of posts is the best indicator of what someone knows whether you want to admit that to yourself or not - it's true. You have 6000 posts, you know quite a bit. Someone who has 20 posts would MORE THAN LIKELY not know as much as you.

You are making an assumption that members want to or need to learn the social dynamics of the board. That shouldn't be the case. This board should be easy to navigate and filter out information both for new and senior members. Sure, you and I know who knows their sh*t and who doesn't, because we've been here long enough and spent a lot of time on the boards. When I first joined this board I had no damn clue and the indicators given to me didn't help me at all and they still don't to this day.

I think the board needs to be open to new ideas and be a little more progressive.

I've done a lot of contributing to this board since I've joined and will continue to contribute in the future. I finally got to the bottom of the Avenir mystery in 2007 once and for all since the time this board was created back in 2000 and I've even offered to make a sr20forum.com FAQ with Shawn B but no one on this board wanted to support doing it so I never got it off the ground and that's where it stays to this day.

The point is to look at this from a new members point of view. Adding total post count and changing 'Rating' to 'Trader Rating' will only help people integrate into the board faster and appreciate the board more. That will only result in more and happier new members in the future.

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Old 08-05-2007, 09:50 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm going to keep this simple.

You're not even a contributor, so your suggestions aren't going very far.

Every forum is run differently, you just have to accept it. Who cares about post counts? That's just for post whores to have bragging rights. When you're here long enough, you'll know who to trust, and who to disregard. It's really not that difficult.

The forum's current operations are great. The only thing that I think should be changed, is newbies posting questions without searching.
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Old 08-05-2007, 10:35 AM   #14 (permalink)
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No one trusts a damn thing I say in my 6 years here but I'll say it anyways...

Become a contributor and you might, just might have a place to "make recommendations"...

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Old 08-05-2007, 01:17 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I'm going to keep this simple.

You're not even a contributor, so your suggestions aren't going very far.

Every forum is run differently, you just have to accept it. Who cares about post counts? That's just for post whores to have bragging rights. When you're here long enough, you'll know who to trust, and who to disregard. It's really not that difficult.

The forum's current operations are great. The only thing that I think should be changed, is newbies posting questions without searching.
Once again, for the third time, how big or small a board is should NOT dictate how organized it should be. Maybe you guys are not understanding what I mean by that.

It means simply that just because the board has a small community doesn't mean that we should force new members to learn the social dynamics of the forum to understand who knows what. Why not just make the board easier to use for everyone.

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No one trusts a damn thing I say in my 6 years here but I'll say it anyways...

Become a contributor and you might, just might have a place to "make recommendations"...

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Both of you bring up that I'm not a "contributing" member by way of money. True, I have yet to donate money and become a money "contributor". But I have contributed to this board in many ways as I have already stated. As have many many other members who are not money donors. I will post this again from my most previous post:

"I've done a lot of contributing to this board since I've joined and will continue to contribute in the future. I finally got to the bottom of the Avenir mystery in 2007 once and for all since the time this board was created back in 2000 and I've even offered to make a sr20forum.com FAQ with Shawn B but no one on this board wanted to support doing it so I never got it off the ground and that's where it stays to this day."

If you can't respect those of us on this board who contributes our time and knowledge for the benefit of the board just because we are not a money donor is pretty outrageous and elitist thinking. There are more ways to show your support of the board than to contribute money. I contribute. I'm a contributor.

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Old 08-05-2007, 03:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I'm sorry, but I really don't agree with your statements. I manage three other websites, and frequent this one, as well as a handfull of others.

I have to admit that this forum is by far easier to navigate, and is WAY more organized than others that I own, and the others that I visit.

I still don't agree with post counts. They mean absolutely nothing. If you were a forum contributor, you'd understand what I meant, by the contributor chat area. I am by far the worst offender in there, regarding post counts. We talk technical as well as other issues, but I am still a noob when it comes to our cars.

I post in EVERY section of the forums, a ton, and that does NOT make me a knowledgable person. I only add my two cents. People take my cents with a grain of salt, because there are more knowledgable people here. They are called Moderators, and Super Moderators, because of their knowledge.

I hope you understand what we're trying to tell you. Those that are on here the most, and have the most information to give, are moderators. If you don't want to trust anyone because there are no post counts, then that's fine. It's really simple to look at people that still post frequently, and have been members since this site was created, for information.

Again, post counts = bragging rights. Means nothing here.
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:47 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Gomba I am sorry to see everyone fighting with you on this subject. It appears no one shares your opinion.

I for one do, but since we do not give the forum money, well that makes us nothing apparently.

Try not to get to worked up over the few guys telling you to stfu.

I would love it if the total post count was placed on the information area.

I mean its not rocket science, why are you guys acting like he want to remake the entire site? It would not hurt ANYONE, and most people probably wouldn't notice it.

I do also agree that members with more post counts 9 out of 10 do have more experience. You guys are being more stubborn then my grandmother used to be. Lighten up, I mean can't you agree that most members who take the time to post that many damn times, at least are more experienced then a 100post person? What you would say is "no, not always" But most forums use post counts to dictate a members "status" on the board. Well I put in my .02$ so GL, and it would be neat to see that post count get on there sometime.


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Gomba I am sorry to see everyone fighting with you on this subject. It appears no one shares your opinion.

I for one do, but since we do not give the forum money, well that makes us nothing apparently.

Try not to get to worked up over the few guys telling you to stfu.

I would love it if the total post count was placed on the information area.

I mean its not rocket science, why are you guys acting like he want to remake the entire site? It would not hurt ANYONE, and most people probably wouldn't notice it.

I do also agree that members with more post counts 9 out of 10 do have more experience. You guys are being more stubborn then my grandmother used to be. Lighten up, I mean can't you agree that most members who take the time to post that many damn times, at least are more experienced then a 100post person? What you would say is "no, not always" But most forums use post counts to dictate a members "status" on the board. Well I put in my .02$ so GL, and it would be neat to see that post count get on there sometime.


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1. I'm not telling anyone to STFU. This is a decent conversation, that is civil.
2. I'm not telling anyone that their opinions mean nothing, becuase they aren't contributors. Nor did I say you were nothing until you put money in.

Why, exactly, do you think this site should have post counts? This site runs fine without them. It takes absolutely nothing to put post counts up, it's true. But it's not necessary, so why have it?

Status is given to members that earn it. It shouldn't just be handed out based on your post count, alone. Some members here post constantly, and don't even drive SR powered cars anymore. So basically, if someone had 10K posts, and didn't have an SR powered car for 3 years, you're going to listen to him over a member with 2K posts that is here every other day, and owns 3 SR powered cars?

Again, post counts are meaningless. If you don't trust half the members here that post regularly, then that's entirely up to you. I for one know who to ignore, and who to trust. It's pretty simple.
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