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Old 06-19-2005, 01:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
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i have a clarke. and its not the nicest, but i wouldnt weld a manifold with it, although i welded my pacesetter header with it and it welded it really good.
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Old 06-19-2005, 03:23 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Geo just took the words right out of my mouth. If you're looking at a Hobart, buy the Miller equivalent and save some money. Cheapest TIG I've seen is around $1000 new. There's some used ones on eBay that can be had for less but many of them are monsters and are pretty beat looking.
Actually, it's the other way around. The Hobart is the cheaper version of the Miller.
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Old 06-19-2005, 08:32 PM   #23 (permalink)
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...2708 816&rd=1

lol, its nice and compact too, only 600lbs...

i would get a hobart.
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Old 06-19-2005, 09:32 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Thats bangin. Its all you need, minus the power cord. If you have a pedestal crane in your garage, you're really set.


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Old 06-19-2005, 11:41 PM   #25 (permalink)
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After reading through this thread, and the other one, I
convinced myself to spring for a Millermatic 175. The best
price I found, shipping included, was on ebay by a *few*
bucks. I also added a Miller Elite auto-darkening helmet
to it, the Miller cover, and some spare clear shields for
the helmet.

I went with the Miller, even though it's more expensive
than the Hobart, mostly because of these two threads,
and because if I have a welder, I use it quite a bit.

The welder I bought was this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7523439950

Yes, you can get a decent welder for a little under 400, but spending
a little extra for a little more welder is vastly preferred if you plan on
using it much.

I will probably never have to replace this one for what I use it for,
and the only other things I'd want would be a plasma cutter and a
TIG.

This welder, as someone suggested, can take a spool gun if I decide
I need to fork over for one.

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Old 06-20-2005, 12:51 PM   #26 (permalink)
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oh your gonna have fun with that welder...now you just have to find out what tank rentals will run you...or, you can just buy a tank too, but that is a bit spendy.
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Old 06-20-2005, 01:12 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Tank rentals $75/3 years, first fill free, so about $40 for 3 years.

The nice thing about the tank lease I have is that I can upsise
or downsise the tank, I'm currently running the, hmm, I *think*
120 cu/ft tank. A fresh fill runs me about $30-$35. Also, I can
if I chose too, buy a tank but it's only worth it in the long haul
- meaning 10-15 years, and I don't know what the hell I'll be
doing in that time.

I was looking at the 3035 spool gun attachment. If I ended up
wanting to do a lot of aluminum, I'd have to spring for it, but it
requires it's own dedicated power source, which makes it pretty
much the cost of the welder, or more.

I'm so glad this thread came up.



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Old 06-21-2005, 09:52 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I was looking at the 3035 spool gun attachment. If I ended up
wanting to do a lot of aluminum, I'd have to spring for it, but it
requires it's own dedicated power source, which makes it pretty
much the cost of the welder, or more.

I'm so glad this thread came up.



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I have the same dilemma - the gun and control box are ~$700, which on top of the welder makes an ac/dc tig look not so expensive anymore. However the price jump to the 210 (which doesn't need the box) is pretty steep plus you still have to buy the gun. Overall, the 175 is pretty damn good choice - it may cost $100 more than the Hobart, but the infinitely variable voltage is worth it, especially if you get a spoolgun
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Old 06-24-2005, 04:12 PM   #29 (permalink)
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If you're interested in getting started with welding, check what your local community college or tech school offers. Here in North Carolina, any of the 59 community colleges has a continuing-ed series of welding classes. $55 for 12 three hour sessions over 6 weeks. I'm in one right now. We had to buy a helmet and tools. But all the equipment and consumables are covered.

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Old 06-24-2005, 04:25 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Tank rentals $75/3 years, first fill free, so about $40 for 3 years.

The nice thing about the tank lease I have is that I can upsise
or downsise the tank, I'm currently running the, hmm, I *think*
120 cu/ft tank. A fresh fill runs me about $30-$35. Also, I can
if I chose too, buy a tank but it's only worth it in the long haul
- meaning 10-15 years, and I don't know what the hell I'll be
doing in that time.

I was looking at the 3035 spool gun attachment. If I ended up
wanting to do a lot of aluminum, I'd have to spring for it, but it
requires it's own dedicated power source, which makes it pretty
much the cost of the welder, or more.

I'm so glad this thread came up.



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its $100 for a 99 year lease here.

you don't need a spool gun to weld Al, just weld it 1/4"-1/2" at a time...
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Old 07-07-2005, 12:56 AM   #31 (permalink)
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How much does it cost to fill a small bottle, like a 10 or 20 lb nitrous size tank. I bought a Firepower mig, just need gas. I have been wanting to get a mig for a while now. I got used to arc welding, but the mig is a different scenerio. Firepower uses the same guts as Snap-On's comparison. Which is practically a Hobart/Miller. I also got the Astro auto dimming mask, gotta have it. I have tried a regular mask and would never go back. Oh, and what do you guys set your regulators at?

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Filling a larger bottle will run me about $60, then the tank rental if you dont own one. Fortunatley I bought my tank and its certified for 5 more years

I set my regulator to on...as long as I can hear the gas flowing, im all good. But seriously im moving to a flow meter instead....a buddy of mine just told me about this and gave me his flowmeter off his welder he just sold.
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Old 07-07-2005, 11:06 AM   #33 (permalink)
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My friend & I just finished up a welding class at the local community college - mostly MIG work, though the instructor would let you tackle anything you liked.

Kevin ended up spending some $$ on his own equipment. He already had a little Campbell-Hausfeld flux-core wire feed (pseudo MIG.) It didn't work worth a sh*t with the flux core. But after the class he bought a full size CO2-Argon tank for about $250, filled. the thing works impressively well now! And for only being a 120V/20A welder, we found it has enough ass to burn through 1/8" steel, if you're not carefull

Check you yellow pages and shop around - we found the 3 big supply shops here varied WIDELY in prices. Also, some places only want to lease you a tank, and refuse to fill one you bought elsewhere.

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