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Old 01-22-2007, 05:55 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'm doing a Snoopy Dance around my computer.

Ya think so?

Any hints on getting the hood open? That thing is crushed shut.

It never did spill any liquids. Started right up after the accident and drove it straight...ahem...directly forward.

If I can get the hood off, I can better see clearance and provide more pics.
Now that's a funny mental image!

See my last post, if those don't work you may have to do some cutting.

That's a good sign. I was thinking it would need a rad and condensor (if your AC still works)

From your pics it doesn't look like the suspension was touched at all. It's hard to tell without actually seeing the car in person, but it looks ok from here.
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Old 01-22-2007, 05:56 PM   #22 (permalink)
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if you have a saw zaw id say cut around the latch, or smash it back down a little. To see if that took a little pressure off the latch

another idea, from looking at the pics is there anyway you can unbolt it
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Old 01-22-2007, 05:59 PM   #23 (permalink)
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jam a screw driver in the latch and pop it free. Tug, pull, shake, repeat.
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Old 01-22-2007, 06:08 PM   #24 (permalink)
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sledge hammer hitting up, while somebody pulls the cable.
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Old 01-22-2007, 06:21 PM   #25 (permalink)
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If you can get to the driver's side hood bolts you might try and unbolt the hood and then maybe you can jimmy it off the front latch.

Prybar the bitch.... just throwing out ideas.
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Old 01-22-2007, 06:51 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Remove the horn, upright, hood latch, cut the cable. Open hood. Thanks guys.

Here's the pics with the hood propped up:











I'm getting quite adept, rather quickly, at dismantling my car.
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Old 01-22-2007, 06:53 PM   #27 (permalink)
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thats not to bad at all
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Old 01-22-2007, 06:55 PM   #28 (permalink)
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thats not to bad at all
nope, not at all, if I get tires quick enough I may be able to come down one weekend and help you out a bit if you had the parts ready to go
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Old 01-22-2007, 06:58 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I say fix it Shawn. The damage looks terrible with the panels on but it looks like it could be revived. I would not give up unless its like hopeless.
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Old 01-22-2007, 07:04 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Remove the horn, upright, hood latch, cut the cable. Open hood. Thanks guys.
Now make sure you tie the hood down when you're done so a gust wind can't catch it and flip it into the windshield. I've seen it happen before!
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Old 01-22-2007, 07:14 PM   #31 (permalink)
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What a way to learn how to wrench on cars. Fixing my smashed Classic.
That's what I'm talkin' about bro' ...I have no body repair skills so I can't give an educated comment but that looks repairable...

As you know there is so much info and love for the classic in this Forum that even a caveman could be a competent wrench monkey if not a full fledge mechanic already...no insult intended...


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Old 01-22-2007, 07:21 PM   #32 (permalink)
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That's repairable. If you can drive it up to me I'll fix it for free. I'd come down and do it but I only have a week of vacation this year and I am saving it for the convention.
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Old 01-22-2007, 07:32 PM   #33 (permalink)
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shawn, im not body expert etc but i have seen people fix cars in worse shape.

if it were any old car id say scrap it, but i know this is your baby so i say do your thing to get her back. whats your moto ? any time something breaks is just a oppurtunity to upgrade ? well there u go..

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Old 01-22-2007, 08:18 PM   #34 (permalink)
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What a way to learn how to wrench on cars. Fixing my smashed Classic.
That's the best way...well, not learning on your smashed car, but at the junkyard makes it more fun.

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It never did spill any liquids. Started right up after the accident and drove it straight...ahem...directly forward.
I think that is a good sign. I'm also not a body guy, but it did miss that front support which is a good sign. I would think that it might be worth your time to have a "good" body shop look at it and give you an estimate. You might be able to save some money by sourcing your own parts (if they let you).

My Classic was totaled in a similar accident, but my front bumper support was pushed back several inches.

Maybe time for some Tsuru's also.

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Old 01-22-2007, 08:56 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Now make sure you tie the hood down when you're done so a gust wind can't catch it and flip it into the windshield. I've seen it happen before!
Gracias! Got a rope right here. Gonna go do it in the dark. The tieing the rope thing.
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I've been compared to a barbaric, violent, caveman on more than one occassion. It's probably insulting to cavemen everywhere.

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That's repairable. If you can drive it up to me I'll fix it for free. I'd come down and do it but I only have a week of vacation this year and I am saving it for the convention.
Fix it for free?!?

What all is involved in the repair of damage like this? Remove dead stuff? Straighten frame...maybe? Weld....uh....cut.....I dunno? Fix the frame, replace the quarter panel and hood. Then replace the crushed stuff with good stuff? Educate me just a bit please.

If I use an excellent body shop, what is a rough, ballpark, figure? Do you need more information to make that educated guess? Just what range are we talking?

If I were to do all the removal of dead parts, and sand the paint, and anything else I could do before it arrived at the body shop, would that help lower my cost?

I am clueless. However I can obviously figure out how to unbolt stuff, I am sure I could figure out how to install the new parts. Got a donor car already lined up for everything but the front quarter panel.
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shawn, im not body expert etc but i have seen people fix cars in worse shape.

if it were any old car id say scrap it, but i know this is your baby so i say do your thing to get her back. whats your moto ? any time something breaks is just a oppurtunity to upgrade ? well there u go..

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Tsurus and a Koyo here I come. LOL.

Let's see what kinda cash I am dealing with here. IF the car is really stupid to repair, and I could save significant money, I would find a shell and strip it, and adorn it with every component I could off my Classic. My interior is a 9 out of 10. Lots of nice bolt-ons, suspension, wheels, blah, blah, blah.
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I'm also not a body guy, but it did miss that front support which is a good sign. I would think that it might be worth your time to have a "good" body shop look at it and give you an estimate. You might be able to save some money by sourcing your own parts (if they let you).

Maybe time for some Tsuru's also.

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Hmmmm...tow it to a shop? I guess.

Do they make house calls? Come over and look? Email them pics?

How does one get an estimate? Get the vehicle to the shop one way or another?

And if my baby is getting fixed, it will surely sport Tsurus. I always wanted better lighting at night.
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Old 01-22-2007, 09:01 PM   #36 (permalink)
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See, the problem is that you have damage to the apron. Its the structure behind the fender there. That forward piece is done. You cannot pull or straighten that you have to replace it. That means cutting it out,welding in new metal. You can purchase that through the dealer. You also have to get a new core support. Thats all the other metal there that is the headlight buckets, the top crossmember ect.

Its "fixable" its just how much you want to spend. I'm sure the insurance co didnt give you much for it. But it can be done. I just got finished replacing a front clip on a honda that was about the same damage. That was with a donor front clip at a body shop.. My best guess would be $1k in parts if you go new and oem. If you have a shop do it its going to run you about $4500 total in repairs. When I say I just got done with this, I mean like last week. Its a fu*king pain in the ass dude.

Shawn, Ill be honest. If you can find another shell, seriously consider swapping parts. It will be better in the long run.

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Old 01-22-2007, 09:08 PM   #37 (permalink)
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See, the problem is that you have damage to the apron. Its the structure behind the fender there. That forward piece is done. You cannot pull or straighten that you have to replace it. That means cutting it out,welding in new metal. You can purchase that through the dealer. You also have to get a new core support. Thats all the other metal there that is the headlight buckets, the top crossmember ect.

Its "fixable" its just how much you want to spend. I'm sure the ins co didnt give you much for it. But it can be done. I just got finished replacing a front clip on a honda that was about the same damage. That was with a donor front clip at a body shop..

Shawn, Ill be honest. If you can find another shell, seriously consider swapping parts. It will be better in the long run.
OK, that is helpful. You obviously do this for a living, your honesty is all I ask.

I am attatched to the car for sentimental reasons. However I won't cut my own financial throat to repair it if it would just be better to start with a fresh shell.

I am clueless on swapping, uninstalling, or reinstalling. But I can learn.

What kind of money am I talking on the repair?

And please, why won't it be as good? You cannot make it like new? The car will never be the same? Pull right, pull left, wind noise, etc...?

Oh so clueless, appreciate your expertise guys.

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My best guess would be $1k in parts if you go new and oem. If you have a shop do it its going to run you about $4500 total in repairs. When I say I just got done with this, I mean like last week. Its a fu*king pain in the ass dude.
Holy Crap!!! .... .....

Uh...that really does not make financial sense whatsoever. Geezus. I can buy a Classic for 2-4K. Hell I can buy a VE'd Classic for 4K. ..... .....

Damn.

Thanks for the info.

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Ah....another opinion.

Not trying to start any type of arguement (coming from me that is hysterical) but what do you see when you view the photos? Your opinion on how you would tackle this problem from your experience?

$4500, per SoloSol above, at a top rate shop is inconceivable. I cannot afford that, now way, no how. Wish I could, but it is not doable at that type of price. I will be forced to buy another clean B13 body and start swapping parts in some fashion or another.
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Old 01-22-2007, 09:17 PM   #38 (permalink)
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i can tell you that if any of the crap i had laying around would help you id give it to you for shipping just because i love your sarcasm....it makes me giggle. but alas i have no front end parts. however like everyone else has said it looks like it completly missed the vital frame areas. i mean look at it! the bumper is sitting pretty!!!!! new fender, a patch peice for the inner fender well and a rad support, rad, fans maybe, and a few other misc parts.


to me it would be well worth the money if i had owned the car my entire life, i can tell the car is very sentimental to you. theres more than enough people here with every part you need to get it back up to ship shape. "cheers: and good luck bro.

edit: find a junk yard b13 <any b13, se-r or none) and go cut out a large peice of the inner fender area, then have a friend or shop size it up and weld the sucker in. juck yards are great because you can get the parts you need for cheap and take out all your frustration on the car as well........i always carry a BFH with me when junkyarding.
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:04 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Shawn... I pmd you the other day Dont know if you got it or not..

Anyway my Ser brethren FIX YOUR DAMN CAR... Here is exactly what I would do!

Have a guy at a body shop on his own time come and weld the piece you need
Rad support weld it in..
Pay him and do the rest myself

Even you can put a fender, hood and TSURU front on. Call me and I will tell you step by step. Just fix your car and make us all happy!!
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Oh yeah if you need a coolant overflow bottle it will be free. Compliments of me
If a NX core support is the same. Just pay shipping. Anything you need that I have is Free unless it is alot to ship it....
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