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Old 05-24-2007, 12:47 AM   #81 (permalink)
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I would have to say no. I used a bigger one from harbor freight for some of the body work, but the wetsanding really seems to work much better by hand. This is a serious workout, Justin, I dont know that your paint is bad enough to warrant doing this just yet, but its your call.
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Old 05-24-2007, 10:40 AM   #82 (permalink)
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you have to thin the paint almost to water consistency, or else you're going to be sanding forever and it will not come out smooth. use a fine foam roller (white color). marine (boat paint) also works great, works a lil better than the enamel paint because it thins by itself.
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Old 05-24-2007, 11:17 PM   #83 (permalink)
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ok so I went at it again today with the paint, and the ratio of paint/mineral spirits that I mixed up yesterday seemed to lay on very good. It rolls on extremely thin, with the paint blotting together to form circles on the my trunk surface. After a little while, most of the paint seemed to level out fairly well. I had to lightly roll over the paint with the foam roller since there were tons of bubbles. Using only the weight of the roller as suggested on Moparts forum, the foam roller pulls on the paint bubbles, causing them to pop, without distorting the rest of the paint surface. Works really well, I'm sure I've got the hang of this. I can still (barely) see the blue surface of my original paint that I'm going over, so I guess the proportions are good, maybe I could add a little more paint.

What I noticed this time around is that the paint sticks really hard when layed on thinly. The paint I put on yesterday was super easy to scratch off with my finger nail. I guess the problem was that the paint was rolled on so thickly, that the top layer of the paint created a barrier between the air and the bottom layer that I rolled on (yes I overlapped the sh*t out of the paint yesterday, in addition to not using enough mineral spirits), which kept the bottom layer from flashing. However, today's thinly rolled-on layer dried within the first hour, and I swear it did not wanna come off at all when I tried scratching it with my fingernails.

What I have realized so far is that the most time-consuming thing above all else when painting a car is body work and prep work. The painting part only takes a few minutes, but the body filling, priming, and worst of all, sanding--is what takes the very longest. I have my porter cable and an array of sanding discs to help speed the process though. what a great tool to have
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:13 AM   #84 (permalink)
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ok so I went at it again today with the paint, and the ratio of paint/mineral spirits that I mixed up yesterday seemed to lay on very good. It rolls on extremely thin, with the paint blotting together to form circles on the my trunk surface. After a little while, most of the paint seemed to level out fairly well. I had to lightly roll over the paint with the foam roller since there were tons of bubbles. Using only the weight of the roller as suggested on Moparts forum, the foam roller pulls on the paint bubbles, causing them to pop, without distorting the rest of the paint surface. Works really well, I'm sure I've got the hang of this. I can still (barely) see the blue surface of my original paint that I'm going over, so I guess the proportions are good, maybe I could add a little more paint.

What I noticed this time around is that the paint sticks really hard when layed on thinly. The paint I put on yesterday was super easy to scratch off with my finger nail. I guess the problem was that the paint was rolled on so thickly, that the top layer of the paint created a barrier between the air and the bottom layer that I rolled on (yes I overlapped the sh*t out of the paint yesterday, in addition to not using enough mineral spirits), which kept the bottom layer from flashing. However, today's thinly rolled-on layer dried within the first hour, and I swear it did not wanna come off at all when I tried scratching it with my fingernails.

What I have realized so far is that the most time-consuming thing above all else when painting a car is body work and prep work. The painting part only takes a few minutes, but the body filling, priming, and worst of all, sanding--is what takes the very longest. I have my porter cable and an array of sanding discs to help speed the process though. what a great tool to have
Hopefully this coming Saturday, I could see your trunk that you painted... Well it depends of what car you use that day.....Oh, btw, you have a 94 "red" SE-R now??


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Old 05-25-2007, 12:14 AM   #85 (permalink)
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You guys are making this sound more difficult *** I remember
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:15 AM   #86 (permalink)
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:52 AM   #87 (permalink)
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Hopefully this coming Saturday, I could see your trunk that you painted... Well it depends of what car you use that day.....Oh, btw, you have a 94 "red" SE-R now??
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it won't be done by Saturday. I am only rolling on one coat a day *** I'm busy doing other stuff
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:54 AM   #88 (permalink)
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You guys are making this sound more difficult *** I remember
like i said, the painting technique is not hard: that's the super quick and easy part (granted you have the paint ratio and rolling technique down, which I'm sure I do). It is the body work, especially the sanding, that takes many moons to do
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:58 AM   #89 (permalink)
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good luck with the project!

remember key to the project is

-thin coats
-wetsanding
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Old 05-25-2007, 01:00 AM   #90 (permalink)
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it is seriously so much sanding I thought my arms would fall off.
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Old 05-25-2007, 01:14 AM   #91 (permalink)
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it is seriously so much sanding I thought my arms would fall off.
im still debating the 50$ paint job on my b13
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Old 05-25-2007, 01:17 AM   #92 (permalink)
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yea it is a lot of wetsanding, my driveway was covered in the color of my car i was painting it -.-
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Old 05-27-2007, 02:43 AM   #93 (permalink)
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im still debating the 50$ paint job on my b13
Go for it!

If you are painting a car that already has horrible paint, even if you do this paint job "poorly", it will still look much better
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Old 05-27-2007, 04:11 PM   #94 (permalink)
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Go for it!

If you are painting a car that already has horrible paint, even if you do this paint job "poorly", it will still look much better
but only if the paint is really bad, like clear coat peeling and primer starting to show in places. I do not think that Justin's SE-L looks bad enough to warrant this paint job, but mine sure did. It was down to bare metal on the roof.
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Old 05-27-2007, 07:52 PM   #95 (permalink)
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Well I'm going to try this method on a pair of 200sx Side skirts in a few days. Going to see how Rustoluem Red comes out.
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Old 05-27-2007, 09:12 PM   #96 (permalink)
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Well I'm going to try this method on a pair of 200sx Side skirts in a few days. Going to see how Rustoluem Red comes out.
sunrise red comes the closest. I just bought 2 cans yesterday and I'm going to start painting in a couple of weeks.
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Old 05-27-2007, 10:32 PM   #97 (permalink)
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sunrise red comes the closest. I just bought 2 cans yesterday and I'm going to start painting in a couple of weeks.
Thought you bought the spray paint. I was going to end up getting Painters Touch(rustoluem) Apple Red, looked pretty close.
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Old 05-28-2007, 10:12 AM   #98 (permalink)
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Thought you bought the spray paint. I was going to end up getting Painters Touch(rustoluem) Apple Red, looked pretty close.
http://www.painting123.com/ProductInfo.asp?p2=I4

I also bought the 'stops rust' one, same line as the one that the original poster bought. I bought 2 cans of the sunrise red. I popped the top yesterday to check and it matches closely. But buy the apple red and compare it also. Its always good to have an alternative color, plus I want to see if it matches up better as well.
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Old 05-28-2007, 10:23 AM   #99 (permalink)
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Oh and you know what.. Does anyone know where I can buy the clear coat? I checked lowes and home depot and they don't have it. I'm searching online and nothing either.
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