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Old 12-01-2005, 09:18 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Oh right. I dont Im afraid, but if you send it over as a 'gift' and maybe drop the 'value' of the package then I dont think it should cause problems for you or me. I got a header and downpipe sent from America about a week ago and everything was fine, only paid for postage, job done!

I would really like this to be possible. Thanks.
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:22 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Sorry Simon, I'm not going to play that game. Nothing personal.

I'll be happy to send it to someone in the US and you can have them forward it on to you.

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Old 12-01-2005, 10:10 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I'd get a set, but you're too late Chris. A forum member already sold me his NIB set a few weeks ago. Just before the GB started. I haven't installed them yet, but I highly recommend them from the reviews I've read. Bump...
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:48 PM   #44 (permalink)
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The problems we've had with international shipping has been getting billed months later for taxes and tarrifs. Do you have someone in the US I can send them to?
Hi Chris, I'm not trying to push you in to international shipping here, I just want to understand this comment. Once you've posted goods to an international location, the receiver is responsible for all taxes/duties in the receiving country. What happened to you guys? Did the receiver refuse the item or something when this happened?? Cheers.

I may now have a US address to send these too if i'm going to go ahead. Are these manufactured in the USA? Just asking as Australia and the USA have a free trade agreement now, so there would be no duty payable for me if they are manufactured in the USA
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Old 12-03-2005, 01:01 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:46 AM   #46 (permalink)
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That doesnt mean anything. Apparently Canada and the US have a free trade agreement but I get nailed on everything that comes over the border. When I got my springs, Rick was billed about $200 for some reason. I didnt receive a bill so I got a call from Rick and we squared things away. If I were not a responsible person I may not have paid.
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Old 12-04-2005, 12:46 PM   #47 (permalink)
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That doesnt mean anything. Apparently Canada and the US have a free trade agreement but I get nailed on everything that comes over the border. When I got my springs, Rick was billed about $200 for some reason. I didnt receive a bill so I got a call from Rick and we squared things away. If I were not a responsible person I may not have paid.
THANK YOU! We got burned 2 or 3 times when shipping internationally, and I'm done with it, it is not going to happen again.

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Old 12-04-2005, 10:58 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Hey Jeff -

Jill and I still thank you for being a stand-up guy on that one. In the world we live in today …… a lot of people would have told us, 'Too bad ! Not my problem ! Seeeee ya !'....... Instead, you acted responsible. Thanks !!!


To all -

From my end directly ….. On the International shipping issue, ME personally shipping the springs right to your door. I have taken ever step, and every avenue known to man, to lawfully avoid the International shipping issue relating to Taxes and Duties. I have yet to find a proper solution. Like Chris stated, we get burned, and it’s a mess to get straightened out. That is why Chris is so adamant about this. It’s not just Chris, it’s me as well. I’m always open for any suggestion you might have. The above board ones that is …… so if you know of one, please let Chris, Jill or Myself know.


NOW ………… Lets get this deal roll’n

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Old 12-04-2005, 11:51 PM   #49 (permalink)
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From my end directly ….. On the International shipping issue, ME personally shipping the springs right to your door. I have taken ever step, and every avenue known to man, to lawfully avoid the International shipping issue relating to Taxes and Duties. I have yet to find a proper solution. Like Chris stated, we get burned, and it’s a mess to get straightened out. That is why Chris is so adamant about this. It’s not just Chris, it’s me as well. I’m always open for any suggestion you might have. The above board ones that is …… so if you know of one, please let Chris, Jill or Myself know.
NOW ………… Lets get this deal roll’n
I'm not fussed about avoiding any charges, that was never my aim. Some countries may have problems about this stuff, but bringing these into Australia is not an issue - duty would have been 5 - 10% before the FTA, and other than that there is a 10% tax payable. Any goods under $400 are actually exempt anyway from all duty/taxes (for private individuals, not businesses) as it's not worth the paperwork costs to the government for the small revenue they would gain back.

Anyway, it's your call of course......

EDIT: I receive a couple of packages a week from all around the world, and have never struck any problems or unexpected massive charges/costs.

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Old 12-05-2005, 01:06 PM   #50 (permalink)
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is this group buy goign on now??? im confused lol if so i want a set
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Old 12-06-2005, 02:56 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:13 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Ok, I want back in this. I could use b13 hyperco's for a rainy day.
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:39 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Did you advertise this in nissanforums.com as well? Might be a good idea.
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:43 AM   #54 (permalink)
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I've posted there in the past, but IIRC, nobody from NF has ever bought them.

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is this group buy goign on now??? im confused lol if so i want a set
Yes it's on. Your sig says you have a B14. These are B13 only.

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Old 12-09-2005, 01:46 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Chris/Rick - I have absolutely no care one way or the other but, in terms of international shipping, what if you agreed mutually with the party overseas to take a deposit of sorts from them. Yes, it would suck for the party overseas but, if they really, really wanted these springs, they'd be willing to give you the additional money. Then, when you get your bill months down the road, you pull from the deposit and return to them whatever money you haven't used. I'm just trying to throw out another idea to help these guys out.
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:02 PM   #57 (permalink)
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That's not going to work. In some cases FedEx tries to collect the money from the recipient, and when they can't, they come after us. Each case can varie, so we have no way of knowing how long it could take, or how much money to potentially hold.

If someone outside of the US wants them, they're going to have to have a buddy in the states accept shipping from us. End of story.

I'm not going to discuss this further.

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Old 12-11-2005, 02:36 PM   #58 (permalink)
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I'm in on this, this is one hell of a deal. Now, I just need to send my money in.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:38 AM   #59 (permalink)
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can u get a list started of how many confirmed buyers there are?
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:55 AM   #60 (permalink)
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Since some forum members appear to have misinterpreted what I was trying to say by THIS post, let me add an introductory explanation:

I do NOT mean to imply that Rick & Chirs who are handling the production and GB of the most sought after item in SR20Forum history are misinformed, lazy or anything of this sort. They are very well aware of the issues and problems and have faced such problems by paying themselves in the past.


What I am saying is that Courier companies OR their agents OR their individual employees, DO TRY INTENTIONALLY to defraud people out of whatever ammount of money they can get away with.

I have been victimized by them at least once and I have gone trough protracted efforst to avoid been victimized a second time by them!!!

I have no doubt that Rick has also been victimized in the past so he does not want to be burdened by a potential protracted legal battle to avoid be victimized yet again, and certainly does not have to put himself in such a situation.

The message of the post was that you should NOT succumb to what essentially ammounts to ILLEGAL extortion.

If a private organization ( courier in this case) tries to extort from you money, supposedly for obligations of a foreign citizen to his/her Customs/Government, and this in a foreign country, AFTER the fact and without prior notice, they will never, ever be vindicated in any legal procedure.

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That's not going to work. In some cases FedEx tries to collect the money from the recipient, and when they can't, they come after us. Each case can varie, so we have no way of knowing how long it could take, or how much money to potentially hold.
If someone outside of the US wants them, they're going to have to have a buddy in the states accept shipping from us. End of story.
I'm not going to discuss this further.
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OK, Chris is not going to discuss it but after just "watching" for so long I may chime in here...

1. I DO have a friend living in the US so I will definitely have a set shipped to him IF this eventually goes down and I do get in it..

2. I assume Chris was referring to duty, taxes, etc. If this was the case... here is the works on it.
DUTIES, TAXES, VAT, or whatever are imposed by the State (country or whatever) by some "rules" they have set up. FEDEX or whoever acts only as the SHIPPER in this deal. IF there are duties, taxes, vat to be collected, FedEx or its agent may act as an intermediary to collect them and pay the State since it is easier this way.

However.... ANY SHIPPED ITEM remains property of the State until said Duty, Taxes, VAT is PAID. Again, any such item IS NOT released to the customer until said taxes are paid. I have a Tsuru kit shipped from Taiwan and I cannot even SEE it until I pay the taxes. Duties, taxes, etc. are a responsibility of the customer and ONLY payable in the country that/state that will receive it. PERIOD.
Let me say it again. FEDEX or whoever CANNOT give the customer his items unless the taxes are paid in full.

FEDEX and other couriers in our country have been known to scam customers out of their money in more than one ways.

Overcharging duty taxes and VAT. Instead of the legal and strictly defined percentage, they add some more $$$ at the end. Instead of say US$ 85 they may ask for US$ 90. Their "forms" are so anbscure you are hard pressed to figure it out.

Charging storage fees. Maybe $5 or more per day. That is from the very first minute the item arrives in their storage house.

Asking for a "one-time" clearance agent's compensation (to the tune of US$ 10-30) sbecause they act as the intermediary and you do not have to commute between their premises and a State Duty Office, back an d forth until you can claim that everything is paid and you can get what you bought. And of course, they can always say that you actually save money since it might take days for you to clear everythoing up.

And international buyers have another problem that the FedEx-es of this world take advantage of... WE cannot return the item!!! It will cost us the same annount of $$$ to return it PLUS a restocking fee in most cases than what we would be paying for the couriers "taxes and fees". So, we can either pay shipping back to the origin of the item P{LUS the restocking fee and have nothing, or pay just a bit more/less and have what we bought in the first place!!!

The list is endless... it is amazing WHAT they can come up with to swindle you out of your money. Naturally, this is not an official policy but rather it is "implemented" by the local agents, representatives of thew courier.

However, this is the FIRST time I have ever heard of ANYONE hitting the SELLER for $$$. If this happened, I can say with 99% probability of being correct that this is a clear case for legal action!!!!


Let me repeat it:

in no country I know of, is the Courier allowed to release the item unless all taxes are paid in FULL by the customer!!! It is not theirs to release until said taxes-duty-VAT is paid in full!!! It belongs to the state. For it to be released, legal Duty Tax Assesment and VAT assesment documents MUST be completed and the assigned fees PAID. Unless these are OK, the Courier cannot give the item to the customer. AFter the item is given to the customer, there can be NO ADDITIONAL documents, charges or whatever. NONE!!!

If the Courier says to the Vendor that shipped the item that HE is liable for US 0.01c, THEY ARE LYING AND TRYING TO STEAL from the vendor for whatever reason. PERIOD.

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