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when you get a gtir, find a usdm 87-88 pulsar buy it for 400 bucks and use that title to register it and put those plates on your car.
if you get pulled over "this car is modified"
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Isn't the Sentra A FWD.....The SR20det is a RWD motor
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Shoot i wish that would work in Ca. Wouldnt be nice if you get pulled over and have a different VIN configuration, no vin plate on dash , then try explaining why the vehicle doesnt have federal labels on it and why nothing matches title and dmv/info. The your car get automatically siezed.
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92 Pulsar GTI-R BLK Gab upper strut brace, Cusco 4pt Front underbrace, front/rear skid plate, stock rear rollbar, full tein coilover suspension , tein camber plates and thats about it for now. Pm me if you need GT Turbos or ano other type.
Well I have been researching this for some time now, and this is the loophole if you want to get one and dont mind it being registered as a KIT CAR would be completely STATE legal.
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The Clean air act states if a vehicle is taken apart to avoid importation regulations, then that is a violation of the Clean air act. Mostly, if a body is imported, then the owner declares it a kit car, and reassembles it, its up to the states to register it.
Cliff notes.. the NHSTA does not consider a car without an engine and drivetrain a motor vehicle. So when its shipped here and at customs, it does NOT have to meet any regulations. However, its pretty obvious that you wouldnt want an engine and drivetrain sitting in the same container as the rolling chasis, then it WILL be considered a motor vehicle.
You need to have a rolling chasis sent to you, then an engine/drivetrain and install. Then install them and register as a kit car. WI seems to be the easiest state but they are all pretty simple to do.
A disassembled vehicle that is shipped without an engine and transmission is treated for importation purposes not as a motor vehicle, but instead as an assemblage of motor vehicle equipment items. Such an assemblage can lawfully be imported into the U.S., provided any equipment included in the assemblage that is subject to FMVSS, but was not originally manufactured to comply with that FMVSS or was not so certified by its original manufacturer, is removed from the assemblage prior to entry into the U.S. Equipment items that are subject to the FMVSS include tires, rims, brake hoses, brake fluid, seat belt assemblies, glazing materials, and lamps, reflective devices, and associated equipment.
If the assemblage is shipped with an engine and power train (even if those components are not installed), it would be regarded for importation purposes as a motor vehicle, and would have to be either manufactured to comply with all applicable FMVSS, and be so certified by its original manufacturer, in the form of a label permanently affixed to the vehicle, or be determined eligible for importation by NHTSA and be imported by an RI or by a person who has a contract with an RI to bring the vehicle into compliance with all applicable FMVSS after importation
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Yah this is know already . the main thing is having a certificate of origin/title from where you got it. Then it still has to conform to certain fedral guidlines. Much easier as long as your not in CA. Bottom line is some slip through the cracks by and if you know the right people they get USA title. Immigration Customs Enforcement ICE love to sieze these vehicle that have no business in the USA.
It would NOT have to conform to any federal laws only state laws.
As long as you would be able to get a kit car title, that is fully state legal.
And there is even another way of doing it that I cant figure out yet. All the people who are selling these legalized cars are all in Florida. It definetly has something to do with getting a title there.
In florida, then they are titling these cars, they are getting actual florida state titles that are NOT labeled as kit cars. They are getting regular normal titles. If you got a fl title the nyo uwould be able to go to CA and register the car like you would any other.
I've seen some legalized cars with GA titles. Something else is that some of these titles are listing vehicles as "1980", etc as this provides for a vehicle being over 25 years old which lessens the requirements in several states. I guess this works if the VINs are different and/or the DMV does not know how to uncode a VIN for the actual year.
As Larry said, having the foreign title is the key (especially from my reading in IL). Without a foreign title in IL, they set a value for the vehicle and you are forced to provide a bond for that amount for 3 years to cover any claims that may occur against the title (like if it is stolen or used as collateral, etc). No foreign title is very difficult in IL (from my reading only).
I'm not sure how to get around the Federal guidelines yet - this is why MotoRex had to buy and crash Skylines back in the day to meet the NTHSA requirements.
It would NOT have to conform to any federal laws only state laws.
As long as you would be able to get a kit car title, that is fully state legal.
And there is even another way of doing it that I cant figure out yet. All the people who are selling these legalized cars are all in Florida. It definetly has something to do with getting a title there.
In florida, then they are titling these cars, they are getting actual florida state titles that are NOT labeled as kit cars. They are getting regular normal titles. If you got a fl title the nyo uwould be able to go to CA and register the car like you would any other.
In california we have special laws. It must may not necessarlity need conform to state and federal epa regulations etc but if it doesnt you get sent to the state refree which flags your car anyway and your screwed then .
.. YOu can have the vehicle title as kit car but its not that simple your still get sent to referee in Ca not sure about other state. What they do is brakelight saftey inspection , determine what year guidline the smog will be under etc. Special construction /kit car they only allow 500 year as well in my state, not sure about others.
If the vehicle was previously reg. in another state its alot easier because it already has a title, vin has history etc.
For me i have mine title as 92 pulsar gti-r. Mine had no title used my Japanese VIN . My personal license plate is going to say SNUK IN
This is how many of the skylines are being done. I saw a few the other day i had the plates came back as Skyline GTR with japanese vin.
Now, I cant figure it out yet, but all these companies are getting either Florida or Georgia state standard titles. It most definetely has someting to do with their state procedures on why the titles are coming back as regualr NON kit car titles.
Of course once you have a FL or GA title it would be easier to go to CA.
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I'm not sure how to get around the Federal guidelines yet - this is why MotoRex had to buy and crash Skylines back in the day to meet the NTHSA requirements.
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To get nhsta off your back, the car is brough in as a rolling chasis. If a car is brought in as a rolling chasis then they do NOT consider it a motor vehicle. That means none of the regulations apply.
Motorex tried going at it fully legit to comply with nhsta and dot and that is why the prices were so high. The time and fees they spent on fully legalizing the car was around 20,000. Which for half that you can buy a r33 gtr. And from what I understand the reason they got fu*ked was because they said r33's were from 90-99 and they only crashed tested an r33.
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If the car is brought in as parts car customs considers it parts and no title or papers is required. Basically gets through easy. If its brought in as complete running car good luck it will be very hard to get through customs and have it reg. Bottom line unless you know people dont try it in CA. Your lucky to live in another state!
I almost had to "move" out of state to reg mine...
If the car is brought in as parts car customs considers it parts and no title or papers is required. Basically gets through easy. If its brought in as complete running car good luck it will be very hard to get through customs and have it reg. Bottom line unless you know people dont try it in CA. Your lucky to live in another state!
I almost had to "move" out of state to reg mine...
Pretty much, yeah. When I bought mine, it was billed seperate as a engine and chassis. I was then able to register it as a "kit car", same as you would a dune buggy or home-made car I guess. After all was said and done, my title actually reads "Home Made 2005" for my model make and year. Depends on your states laws I guess. If you had to get emissoins or safety inspections done I guess it would be different, you would have to do some research first. Its a different process for each state, its not really a "cut and dry" process. Depends on your states laws.......
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Yo somebody find out the FL process. I'm in GA I'll try to see if there is some way to do this.
Another thing you have to do is see how much insurance is for a kit car, or for a foreign vin number. You may be able to get a title but getting it insured is something else.
Yeah nissantech. Who did you buy the shell and motor/trans from.
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Hey Canadian guys. I just read what is going on with the 15 year old rule. Don't let your government do that to you. FIGHT FOR YOUR IMPORTS. That is a load of crap those guys are trying to pull.
