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Why nascar bar, then the bar also close to the driver? I would like a little more driver room personally. And if you are going nascar bars, you can make it strong enough and hang it out there a bit.
Because this is stronger as well as absorbs more impact energy. Making a big wall of NASCAR bars doesn't do too much for rigidity and isn't as strong as an X-brace. The "crash attenuator" as Kojima coined it puts the initital impact farther out, as well as give you some crumple space before it hits the X. Once it hits the X, the car, in all likelihood, will just bounce away from the impact instead.
That, and that's just how we roll in Cali...
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Then why the adjustable rails? Do you see using it like at an enduro with multi drivers? Why not a more secure mounting that is fixed?
A lot of us run enduros, the adjustable seat is nice...
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What class you going racing in? Cause I know like ITA you cant tie into the front strut towers like that.
ITA is teh butt secks. NASA PT FTW!
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Personally Id go lot stiffer springs and koni double adjustable with race valving. but we all know how bad the b13 suspension sucks...so its not easy or cheap to make it go around a corner not looking like a snow plow
I don't think he posted his spring rates meng. Those aren't Pro-kits in there, that's for sure.
If I had to guess, since he's Kojima's neighbor, he's probably running 600F/650R if the rear strut ears are longer, otherwise 500 or 550 rear rates...
Stephen, run PTD, that's where most of next year's SE-Rs will be...
Wow. Do yourself and your first instructor a favor and show up at your first HPDE with street tires and a non-race (translation.... quiet) exhaust.
very very true. race cars are extremely noisy. im thinking about running my first HPDE with a street car. maybe my dad will let me borrow his SL500 . highly doubtful of that though .
i've been thinking about getting a used intercom system that planes or rally teams used. something where the driver and passenger have mic's and headphones in but the mic only pics up when the driver or passenger is talking. that would be really cool. but once again. more time and money.
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I'm wondering how much faster an SE-R in PTD trim vs PTE trim with the SAME driver. That might be a good question to answer at a convention.
this would be a great question for any of the racers on here to answer ie kojima, rockwood, malcom, etc. i'd like to know too.
very very true. race cars are extremely noisy. im thinking about running my first HPDE with a street car. maybe my dad will let me borrow his SL500 . highly doubtful of that though
I rented a Mazda 6 for mine. Rental cars are great for this.
I'm wondering how much faster an SE-R in PTD trim vs PTE trim with the SAME driver. That might be a good question to answer at a convention.
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I don't know, i haven't been in an SE-R prepped near PTE in quite a while. But if you remove the SAME driver and put Rockwood in a PTE prepped (PTD classed car at the time) G20 vs. me in my PTD SE-R at Cal Speedway in March, the 'PTE' car was about 6 seconds slower (1.59ish vs. 2.05ish). It's a faster track, so the gap is a little larger there...
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put Rockwood in a PTE prepped (PTD classed car at the time) G20 vs. me in my PTD SE-R at Cal Speedway in March, the 'PTE' car was about 6 seconds slower
Well there's your problem......
FWIW at nationals the PTD cars were slower than the E cars. ymmv not available in all areas....
I don't know, i haven't been in an SE-R prepped near PTE in quite a while. But if you remove the SAME driver and put Rockwood in a PTE prepped (PTD classed car at the time) G20 vs. me in my PTD SE-R at Cal Speedway in March, the 'PTE' car was about 6 seconds slower (1.59ish vs. 2.05ish). It's a faster track, so the gap is a little larger there...
I had one DE instructor out here in the southeast region with a mic and headphone system. It worked great. If you have the money for it I say get it. Communication was great between the two of us. I have a three inch exhaust pipe on my basically stock b13. Also some pretty bad exhaust leaks. The thing is just nasty loud. The headphone/mic system helped a lot.
I also agree with the rental car thing. You'll go slower with an automatic. You'll concentrate on your line. If you wreck all your hard work is not lost. Hertz rents 350z's and G35's so if you want a sporty car they are the place to look. I don't know if they rent out manuals though. This year a guy brought out a brand new G35 sedan. He was cooking his brake fluid but once he learned how to deal with that he was moving!. The New G has plenty of zoom in the straights.
I'm thinking of going this route for most of this year. Currently my funds are not helping me to get my shell road worthy. I still want to drive though, so I think I'm gonna rent a cheap ass Hyundai or Kia. I'm trying to get my DE's up so I can eventually instruct and thus get free track time.
The advice I have received is to take your time at first to take everything in. Learning the lines at the tracks and being comfortable in traffic , knowing the danger zones, watching the flag stations is what you want to focus on at first. You can worry about speed once your comfortable and SAFE on the track. Safe for yourself, and others.
Again Have fun man. Track DRiving is awesome. I too want to race someday , but as of now It'll have to wait.
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FWIW at nationals the PTD cars were slower than the E cars. ymmv not available in all areas....
Hey! Kiss my anoos.
Our car was out there rocking a stock motor with only a crap OBX header, CAI and JWT ECU, making probably 135whp. Derrick, though he won't let me disclose how much, was making considerably more power than we were - bastard pulled like 15-20 lengths on the oval on me. In addition, he was running those fancy pants 'kooks against our RA-1s...
We'll see this year (assuming the car runs long enough, I feel like I'm racing Herby) if he's truly faster. Hell, we might even leave the car in "E" trim just to see...
And yes, Mike, there was a little problem somewhere between the seat and the steering wheel. It was my first time at that track, evAR.
Enough with the rice excuses, back to drooling over someone else's race car...
is it expensive? and if you wreck it is it covered?
Standard rental cost. Not sure how much (if at all) it would be with you since you're under 25.
If you wreck, it most certainly isn't covered. Unless you were to "crash" on the road outside the track...
Either way, if you wreck at a driving concepts event or HPDE 1 event, you're trying too hard for nothing. You will learn a lot more if you concentrate more on smooth driving and perfecting your line than pushing the car beyond its limits.
Other than that, I'm sure you could leave the stock exhaust on there for now, if you haven't thrown it away...
Do your instructor's heart rate and life expectancy a favor and DON'T bring Phoenix. I know if I was walking up to you as my instruction assignment, and I saw the big front mount, I'd want to reconsider my "free" track day...
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