Joelamite

good discussions here...
front bar no front bar?
brake setup?
we could go on...
I like to see real data... Not bigger is better attitude seat of the pants...
or the net said so...

Front bar...
I feel confident about don't run one. I don't have actual spread sheet data from track testing, but i can assure we tested as well as other and came to the same result.


Big brake upgrade.
Scott has a good argument.
The dynallites are cheaper to run in the long run...
Scott, could you chime in on stopping over the NX setup on race tires race weight and speed? Do you think stepping up to a suplite would be benificial now that they are available?
I don't see a negative as they are well... light... I suppose you could get a year out of them. man that is a lot of brake on something with this speed/weight.

NEW... Anyone want to chime in on spring rates?

Hope I did not hijack!

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Joelamite

funny we replied within a min...
We don't run areo as it costs pointss in the class...

Scott and I have instructed students since dang 90's...??? Scott???
Jefferson Circuit? Pat and Mike in charge nasa vers 1.0???

R compound?
Well good question. I don't see any wrong.
Todays street tires are pretty shockingly good.
R??? some nitpicky m3 instructor could find fault...
But then again they could find fault in running +3 - 3psi diff. in a tire for HPDE...
I think... Run what you have safely and have fun... that is why you are there.
You can work on getting better in whatever...
If the instructor is not scared, feels confident in your style, and is having a good time, you both will suceed in your goals.

coors75

(sounds kind of seat of the pants Just teasing.. I know what you mean ... lots of bench racers around etc.


The brakes choice are on Fastbrakes recommendation not mine, the only seat of the pants data I have is nx callipers with Metal master pads are NOT good enough for the track; I don;t think I could find anyone to disagree

Don't worry about hijacking the thread anything regarding HPDE and road racing an NX is welcome. That is how rookies like me learn.

Spring rats; now that is a can of worms. I am running 350f/250r as it is a DD but I am thinking of going to 400ish front and putting the 350 in the rear and koni inserts. but I do not have enough experience to know ho what would balance out.

awdracer

Joe, I don't think that the Fastbrakes Dynalite setup is at a disadvantage to the NX setup in terms of stopping power. As long as your car stops repeatedly without pad or fluid fade and you can lock the wheels when you want to then you have enough brakes.

This is how it shakes out in my opinion between the NX and Fastbrakes setup....

Upfront cost: NX is cheaper to start with. Advantage NX.
Long term cost: Pads cost about $90 less per set with the Wilwoods with no decrease in pad longevity. Advantage Fastbrakes.
Stopping power: Both get the job done repeatedly and without fade. Even.
Weight: The Fastbrakes setup is MUCH lighter. Advantage Fastbrakes.
Rotor longevity: The NX rotor is much heavier so I'm going to assume that they last longer. Advantage NX?
Rotor cost: NX rotors are $75 per set at NAPA (with tax) and the Fastbrakes Brembos are $80 shipped per set. Even.

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FYI, I am getting NX rotors for $40 (brembos). I am trying carbotec pads this season, and they are about $180. Last two seasons I was using porterfield at about the same price and they lasted 2 race weekends, and 4 PDX (HPDE) weekends... I was pleased...

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