Greg Amy

The purpose of this topic is to ask all drivers to post the best SE-R Cup their best B13/14 lap times as well as the SCCA ITA/NASA PTx lap records at that track in the same configuration.


Lime Rock Park
ITA lap record, 1:01.6xx, Mazda Miata
Best B13 lap time, 1:02.930, ITA Nissan NX2000

New Hampshire International Raceway
ITA Lap Record, no south chicane, 1:15.631, ITA Nissan NX2000 (Greg Amy, 2006)
ITA Lap Record, w/ south chicane, 1:19.766, ITA Nissan NX2000 (Greg Amy, 2006)

Summit Point, main track
ITA Lap record, 1:28.162, Mazda Miata
SE-R Cup Lap Record, ????
Best B13 lap time, ???? NASA SE-R Cup Sentra SE-R (Eric Rosen, 2006)

Watkins Glen (Long course)
ITA Lap Record, 2:17.900, ITA Nissan NX2000 (Greg Amy, 2006)

Watkins Glen (Short course)
ITA Lap Record, 1:30.131 (Acura Integra, 2005)
Best B13 lap time?

Road Atlanta
ITA Lap Record, 1:42.054, Honda CRX Si (2005)
Best B13 lap time, 1:43.882, ITA Nissan NX2000 (Greg Amy, 2005)

Virginia International Raceway, full course
ITA Lap Record, 2:17.182, Acura Integra (2006)
Best B13 lap time, 2:19.078 (Greg Amy, PTE NX2000, 2007)

Pocono, full course with South Course chicane
ITA Lap Record, 1:52.577, Honda CRX Si
Best B13 lap time, 1:52.919, (Greg Amy, NX2000, 2007)

Pocono, South Course
No SCCA or NASA Records
Best Unofficial time 0:52.62 (2006 SE-R Convention, Greg Amy, NX2000. Recorded via onboard data acquisition).

Pocono, North Course
No SCCA or NASA records
Best B13 lap time?

 

tpeele

Greg,

I don't know if there are any cars in SE-R cup trim that have run on the East coast. I could be wrong though.

Tim

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Greg Amy

Thanks, Tom.

I'm actually looking for times nationwide, so post what you know. By comparing the SE-R Cup times from around the country relative to a standard (in this case, SCCA's ITS) it will allow me to do a comparison of the whole population.

GA

nasa ser

Any updates to the following information is appreciated. Thanks!

Summit Point
ITS Lap record, 1:24.886, BMW 325is
Best claimed B13 lap time, 1:28.995, ITS Nissan NX2000 (104.8% - Unofficial practice)
Best official B13 lap time, 1:33.240, ITS Sentra SE-R, (109.8%)


don't know about that claimed ITS NX2000 time, but i know Eric Rosen w/ legal SER CUP car has done 1:30 repeadtedly in and EMRA enduro there,

as for VIR, full course best official time was 1:23, in same legal SER CUP car

VIR north, i would have to look at NASA-VA results for last 2 years

CMP, i know i have done 2:00.01 in a NASA race there in my legal SER CUP 1991 Ser, but again, Rosen has done better there in his car (his car has a few more horses)

i will post more official times when i get a chance

Stephen Harper

tpeele

I think you mean 2:23 for VIR Full. I have results that show Eric ran a 1:47 for North Course.

Greg Amy

Both of those are mine, done at Audi Club HPDEs. Not official, for reference only.


Virginia International, full course
ITS Lap Record, 2:15.712, BMW 325is
Best B13 lap time, 2:23.440, SERC NX2000 (105.6%)
(Results show that Boehly was faster than Rosen at the Feb full course enduro)

Virginia International, north course
ITS Lap Record, ?
Best B13 lap time, 1:47.570, SERC SE-R

Carolina Motorsports Park
ITS best time found, 1:52.465, BMW 325is
Best B13 lap time, 2:00.360, SERC SE-R (107.0%)

Scarpa

In the database section of the se-r cup yahoo group there's a listing of lap records for both SR and SRX classes.

nasa ser

sorry my fault :-), yea eric was rolling on the north course.....


although unofficial or not, that 1.28+ at summit point is smoking, whoever did that needs to run SER cup!

slowSER

A few years ago, there was a guy in a white B13 SE-R running ITS at Summit ... IIRC, his best time was 1:29-1:30 range. Should be on the WDCR-SCCA site under past MARRS results.

Edit: Found it:

1:30.399

Could've sworn he got a 1:29 somewhere ... [shrug]

slowSER

No, he should keep his ass in Connecticut and let us ham fists battle it out!

nasa ser

yea, i was too embarassed compared to that to post my best time at summit ;-)

nasa ser

aha, one track where I might have a record simply 'cause no SER's have run there, Lowes Motor Speedway, NASA VIR race w/ infield road course

1:29.196 ('cause I was in Eric Rosen's car, not mine ;-)

anyone know an ITS record there?

edit: couldn't fin record but saw an ITS lap time for winner of 1.24...that's quick (although it is a horsepower track, the SER absolutley fell on its face when you had to go 5th about halfway down the backstraight)

CMP record--Rosen did a 1:57.590 there in August of 2002 w/ NASA -VA

see a pattern here? ;-)

Greg Amy

Ouch! Now you're gonna get it...I can't wait for 2004...

I must temper those times with the fact that I was running S03 Hoosiers (and 135 whp and 2525 pounds with 200# driver...)

Greg Amy

Can't find the ITS lap record, but SCCA ran there in June, best lap time was 1:26.462 by an RX-7.

nasa ser

doesn' make me feel that much better, my car has 132 whp, no hoosiers :-) (toyos or kuhmos) and probably weighs 2600 w/ driver (i'm abouyt 180) and its nowhere near that quick! (although i have only done one session at summit which ended w/ a broken axle
) but i know its 2 to 3 seconds off your pace ;-)

Jim #98NX

As a point of reference, since I'm the one collecting lap records for the WC SE-R Cup, usually we're well off the ITS pace, mostly because we're rookie drivers and we don't allow Hoosier tires in the Cup (which more experienced drivers tell me are worth 1 second or so per lap at some tracks).

Willow Springs (2.5 miles)
ITS (Rich Molony): 1:34.495
SE-R Cup (Sheening Lin): 1:36.979 (101.3%)

Buttonwillow #13 CW (3.0 miles)
ITS (Brian Winch): 2:05.601
SE-R Cup (Phil Usher): 2:07.265 (102.6%)

California Speedway (2.8 miles)
ITS: (Preston Lerner): 1:57.678
SE-R Cup: (Phil Usher): 2:02.297 (103.9%)

Infineon Raceway (2.55 miles, I think)
ITS (Tom Wickersham): 1:53.047
SE-R Cup (Sheening Lin): 1:58.694 (105.0%)

Buttonwillow and Willow Springs are the tracks we visit the most, and as you can see, we're closest to the ITS record there.

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Jim #98NX

I wonder if the Cup cars have an advantage on fast tracks or slower tracks? With the few data points we have, it looks like they are about 2% faster.

If we use ITS again, here's the MPH at the different tracks (unless I got my math wrong somewhere):

Willow Springs: 95 mph
Buttonwillow: 85 mph
California Speedway: 85 mph
Infineon Raceway: 81 mph

So, just by comparing our times to ITS, it looks like we do better at faster tracks, but that might just be due to driver skill.

Jim #98NX

Interestingly, all of the Cup lap records are B13s, despite the fast B14's driven by Naji Dahi and Mike Kojima- both of who have multiple poles and wins.

nasa ser

I am assuming the west coast SERC lap record you refer to are for SERC not SERXC (ie .not for the turbo cars);

just for a point of reference, the honda challenge h1 cars are about equal to the well prepped ITS (ie. e35 325s) cars out here...no one out here has raced a turbo SER but I assume they are similar to H1 cars?

Greg Amy