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Why make this illegal? If somebody wants to build a safer cage why penalize them? I would rather do this in my car since it will make the installation much cleaner. One less bar that I will need to put in.
Cage is limited to six attachment points and an optional 2 firewall braces.
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Originally Posted by tpeele
If somebody wants to build a safer cage why penalize them? I would rather do this in my car since it will make the installation much cleaner. One less bar that I will need to put in.
One less bar? You guys are talking about this, right:
Connecting the cage to the A pillar the length of the windshield (or at all) is not allowed. Sorry.
Why make this illegal? If somebody wants to build a safer cage why penalize them? I would rather do this in my car since it will make the installation much cleaner. One less bar that I will need to put in.
Thanks,
Tim
It seems to me this makes far more difference in stiffening the chassis than it does making a safer cage. In fact, the energy absorbed in crumpling the sheet metal would be that much less energy the cage itself would have to absorb.
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Why make this illegal? If somebody wants to build a safer cage why penalize them? I would rather do this in my car since it will make the installation much cleaner. One less bar that I will need to put in.
Thanks,
Tim
Doesnt help safety much, stiffens chassis a lot adds to expense a lot. SR is supposed to be an inexpensive class.
Why make this illegal? If somebody wants to build a safer cage why penalize them? I would rather do this in my car since it will make the installation much cleaner. One less bar that I will need to put in.
Thanks,
Tim
guesseting is taking perforated steel and welding it from the forward bars to the a pillar. pays dividends in chassis stiffness, but not so much to the cage. you do not get to lose a bar, as the bar is much stronger than just a 1/16" thick peice of steel with holes in it.
i didnt see anything specific on this, so i assumed it went under the attachment points clause. i just wanted to make sure, as i have seen it on some cages (like Andris' car).
Doesnt help safety much, stiffens chassis a lot adds to expense a lot. SR is supposed to be an inexpensive class.
Mike
they are $13.95 from summit mike. welding it is simple as well, as theyre not in an akward spot. the only extra step would be to strip the paint there and remove the windshield/weather stripping.
they are $13.95 from summit mike. welding it is simple as well, as theyre not in an akward spot. the only extra step would be to strip the paint there and remove the windshield/weather stripping.
They have to be cut to fit from sheet stock and require removing the windshield. It would add several hundred dollars to a cage bill which can be the most expensive part of a cup car.
..and then, when you open that can of worms, you've opened a ton of possibilities for other performance modifications. 'Cause I guarantee you, whatever wording you come up with to allow more than the eight points to the chassis, I can come up with many, many other performance mods to take advantage of it. I'll have a World Challenge Touring cage in that sucker faster than you can say, "uh, wha...?"
They have to be cut to fit from sheet stock and require removing the windshield. It would add several hundred dollars to a cage bill which can be the most expensive part of a cup car.
You can buy precut gussets and you would only need to remove the windshield if you are welding one on both sides of the bar. Or you can just do it when you put your perfectly legal lexan windshield in. Of course they don't make one of those for the NX.
..and then, when you open that can of worms, you've opened a ton of possibilities for other performance modifications. 'Cause I guarantee you, whatever wording you come up with to allow more than the eight points to the chassis, I can come up with many, many other performance mods to take advantage of it. I'll have a World Challenge Touring cage in that sucker faster than you can say, "uh, wha...?"
Unintended consequences, and all that...
How is the wording in the SRX rules? Why not just allow gussets along the A pillar?
How is the wording in the SRX rules? Why not just allow gussets along the A pillar?
Read the rules.
You can bring this up at the end-of-year rules discussion, but because it is an extra expense that doesn't add safety, just performance then it is not likely to fare well.
Just think all the existing cars would have to rip out their windshields to be competitive! No way.
