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Old 11-04-2004, 07:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2005 EC Cup Calendar

Those of you who actually raced last year or have a car with valid logbook and competition license, please comment. Others: you don't get a say until your stuff is done.

The 2005 Calendars are coming together and I'd like to create an EC Cup Calendar. Did you guys want to keep it in the VA region or try some of the SE events? I know the Northeast region is trying to get racing classes going, but I don't yet know if they will do so for 2005.

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keep it in the virginia region, at least two of us run almost every event there so i helps generate car #s that way.....I might consider going to road atlanta but everything else in SE region is really far from Richmond
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keep it in the virginia region, at least two of us run almost every event there so i helps generate car #s that way.....I might consider going to road atlanta but everything else in SE region is really far from Richmond
Until I actually see someone other than myself, Stephen Harper, and Greg Amy, who drove quite a long distance to drive at Summit Point this summer, I think it should stay with the Virginia Region. Stephen and I are the only ones who are consistently there, heck we have been racing Sentras for the last three years together.

There has been so much talk of people building cars and bringing them out. Where are all of you? It would be nice to see a few more out there. Again, I personally feel that the East Coast SE-R Cup should stay with the Virginia Region schedule until a few cars from another region race on a consistent basis that would warrant a move to a different region.

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Old 11-05-2004, 07:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't quite understand the question, but the closer you get to the Northeast, the more often you'll see me. I like Summit, but the 7-hour tow (each way) makes it prohibitive except for feature events like Hyperfest. Anything farther south than Summit is definitely out of the question (unless one of you boys wants to tow my stuff down while I fly...)

Our plans for '05 include one (Hyperfest), maybe two, NASA weekends at SP; bring it up here (Pocono, Watkins Glen, NHIS) and I'm at all of them.

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Ok, sounds like VA it is. We'll just put the VA schedule as the EC Cup schedule.

I'll closely monitor the Northeast guys and see if they get racing going this year. They are still growing, but I know they have plans for a race series.
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Old 11-08-2004, 11:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Watch for a big 1 car battle in the hotly contested Middle-of-nowhere division....(sorry, could restrain myself...)
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Watch for a big 1 car battle in the hotly contested Middle-of-nowhere division....(sorry, could restrain myself...)
Yay!!! Someone really needs to invent some sort of technology for cheap transportation of race cars. Right now it is cheaper for me to build another car that to tow the car to Midwest, let alone East Coast events. Hey... that's an idea... cars in every region and we'll just fly people around... hmmm...
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Steve, maybe as the year progresses we can discuss a meet somewhere halfway. Where's the closest NASA event from you towards Connecticut?

BTW, *LOVE* the ITA on the side of the car! We're planning a champagne-laced "ITS-removal" celebration at the garage. Three long years of hard work finally paying off...

On a related side note, based on a comparison of ARRC lap times between 2003 and 2004, plus a review of the winners this year, I have very high expectations of a very good placing of B13s in the ARRC 2005. This years' winner, Anthony Serra, runs in my region/division, so we'll be using him as the standard.

2 down, 362 more days to go...

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On a related side note, based on a comparison of ARRC lap times between 2003 and 2004, plus a review of the winners this year, I have very high expectations of a very good placing of B13s in the ARRC 2005. This years' winner, Anthony Serra, runs in my region/division, so we'll be using him as the standard.
ITA is going to be the place to be next year. It's going to be a total blast. The number of competitive platforms will probably be an all time high for any IT class.

Anthony put on quite the show on Saturday. Apparently his engine wasn't even a MAX EFFORT engine either from what I heard second hand from someone who watched the teardown.
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Steve, maybe as the year progresses we can discuss a meet somewhere halfway. Where's the closest NASA event from you towards Connecticut?
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Indiana/Ohio (www.racenasa.com) ran twice at Beaverun and twice at Mid Ohio in 2004, so I would expect probably about the same schedule in 2005. Mid O is about as far as I'll probably go next year considering I have to beg, borrow, and steal a tow vehicle (I'll be driving the car to IRP and Putnam Park events) I'm going to try and run once there with NASA and once with SCCA next season.
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George, I'm with that. I just can't wait 'til next year!

Anthony is a very good and smooth driver. His cars are prepared *extremely* well and he knows Hondas. Those Hondas are so well-built from the factory that I'm not surprised he didn't do things like port-matching, because it's really not needed. All he really had to do was rebuild, clean up the head and valves, and drop in 1/2-point compression pistons.

Unfortunately, I just got a note from him that he's sold his Acura. Fortunately, it's to another strong driver in the region. Anthony will also build a new A car based on the new shock rules for the ARRC, but I don't see him running a full season.

Steve, I do like Mid-Ohio, but it's 600 miles. BeaveRun is 500 miles. Just too far for a weekend event. Maybe catch you in College Station in September or Atlanta in November?
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Greg, by the way, Eric ran a 1:29 a change at summit two weeks ago at the NASA event so maybe we've got some one down here who can you a better run for the money than i did...

although i do hope to either put new shocks on the car or put cams in during the off season which will help close the gap
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Steve, I do like Mid-Ohio, but it's 600 miles. BeaveRun is 500 miles. Just too far for a weekend event. Maybe catch you in College Station in September or Atlanta in November?
Well, there's always the chance I may win the Powerball lottery before then.......
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George, I'm with that. I just can't wait 'til next year!
Yeah, I wish Grover's car wasn't being converted to EP. ITA is going to rock.

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Anthony is a very good and smooth driver. His cars are prepared *extremely* well and he knows Hondas. Those Hondas are so well-built from the factory that I'm not surprised he didn't do things like port-matching, because it's really not needed. All he really had to do was rebuild, clean up the head and valves, and drop in 1/2-point compression pistons.

Unfortunately, I just got a note from him that he's sold his Acura. Fortunately, it's to another strong driver in the region. Anthony will also build a new A car based on the new shock rules for the ARRC, but I don't see him running a full season.
I hope he didn't add 1/2 point compression pistons since that is illegal. What Jake noticed was that he didn't even port match. Surprising.

Yes, the story going around the NER guys (no reason to disbelieve it) is that A) he sold his car for $20k, B) he is already working on another car, C) he's going Speed Touring Car racing next year.

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Steve, I do like Mid-Ohio, but it's 600 miles. BeaveRun is 500 miles. Just too far for a weekend event. Maybe catch you in College Station in September or Atlanta in November?
You're coming to TWS? Cool! I'm hoping I can get off for ARRC next year. I really want to race there.
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Eric ran a 1:29 a change at summit two weeks ago...
Coolness. Looks like I'll have to step up the pace a bit...

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...although i do hope to either put new shocks on the car...
Interested in a good deal on some recently-revalved and -rebuilt and properly modified ADS struts?

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I hope he didn't add 1/2 point compression pistons since that is illegal.
I was being flippant. Shave the head and/or shave the block, bolt it on and go...

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That's in the plans...
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Interested in a good deal on some recently-revalved and -rebuilt and properly modified ADS struts?
yes, whether the budget allows is the ? how much?:=)(stephen, baby #3 got here two weeks ago so the race car budget is thin....

so what suspension are you doing now

and are you doing anything to the motor?
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Stephen, I don't have a firm price in mind for the struts, but I can say it will be significantly less than buying new from ADS. Plus, the dampers have been rebuilt and revalved a few times (once by ADS and twice by us) and I have the tools and some spare internal parts that will probably go with them. There's no rush, as I won't be letting them go until the new stuff is built (about which I'm not ready to announce until the deal is finalized.) I figure late Spring?

The current engine is a literally "throw-together available parts" rebuild that was supposed to only last us a few months; that was 3 years ago. The new engine will be a new to-the-limits IT build, balanced and blueprinted, 1/2 point compression, overbore, the works. Top-of-the-line JWT camshafts (Geo: psyche!! J/K). We're also deciding whether to devleop our own tuned collector header or possibly run a Hotshot Gen 6 (I'd like to get one pf those in my hands for review first, though.) Finally, we've got to develop an ECU, because the 100-octane JWT one just isn't giving us much. That may involve some kind of user-programmable system, or it may involve developing the parameters on a dyno and having JWT burn one of theirs to our specs. Regardless, we'll need power and torque to run up against those Acuras, so that's the current focus.

So, we'll have the suspension developed, we're down to our minimum 2515# weight, and we'll have the power. After that, no more excuses... GA
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Greg, I will check back with you in the spring then on the struts, hopefully the budget will allow for it then ;-)

can't wait to see you car with a "real" motor, ITA cars are in the 1:27's now at summit so hopefully the changes will get you over the hump down into their range




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Stephen, I don't have a firm price in mind for the struts, but I can say it will be significantly less than buying new from ADS. Plus, the dampers have been rebuilt and revalved a few times (once by ADS and twice by us) and I have the tools and some spare internal parts that will probably go with them. There's no rush, as I won't be letting them go until the new stuff is built (about which I'm not ready to announce until the deal is finalized.) I figure late Spring?

The current engine is a literally "throw-together available parts" rebuild that was supposed to only last us a few months; that was 3 years ago. The new engine will be a new to-the-limits IT build, balanced and blueprinted, 1/2 point compression, overbore, the works. Top-of-the-line JWT camshafts (Geo: psyche!! J/K). We're also deciding whether to devleop our own tuned collector header or possibly run a Hotshot Gen 6 (I'd like to get one pf those in my hands for review first, though.) Finally, we've got to develop an ECU, because the 100-octane JWT one just isn't giving us much. That may involve some kind of user-programmable system, or it may involve developing the parameters on a dyno and having JWT burn one of theirs to our specs. Regardless, we'll need power and torque to run up against those Acuras, so that's the current focus.

So, we'll have the suspension developed, we're down to our minimum 2515# weight, and we'll have the power. After that, no more excuses... GA
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