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I've been lurking in this section for a while and figured I'd finally post up. I'm currently running a JWT ECU, but work part time a dyno shop and have a little more than average knowledge of tuning standalones. However this looks so different from what I normally see. So I got a couple of questions:
Firstly, .bin and .adr files. I've read every thread in this section but Im still a litle confused. What are these files used for? I assume one contains the ROM (.bin) but the other Im not sure about.
Secondly, daughterboards. I've read Calum had not finished his B14 boards, but is it just like modifying the B13/S13 ECU? I also have a burner at my job, I'll post what model it is tommorrow, and find out if I can burn them there, if not I'll buy the Moates.
Lastly, conversions. Timing like Calum said is pretty straighforward except for some cells in the B14 high oct map 14x -25x (94g20edu). The fuel however I haven't quite figured. If I start with a U12 map for example, do I calculate my k value based on (i) Vq (Z32) and (ii) the injectors Im currently running (750cc) like in Crims' post? Also if I change my engine specifications setup does it recalculate anything?
TIA guys, its a lot to take in, but I'm eager to learn
Firstly, .bin and .adr files. I've read every thread in this section but Im still a litle confused. What are these files used for? I assume one contains the ROM (.bin) but the other Im not sure about.
.adr files are used in a program called rom-editor. adr files locate address's to popular variables like speed/rev limiters....etc....
.bin files is what runs your car. Inside the .bin file are various maps writen in HEX code. When you translate these maps in to dec then they make much more sense. Some times coverting HEX to DEC will require some complex math, but, for the most part thats what programs like rom editor and live edit are for (although live edit is more of an emulator program).
Thanks Jason, that website took me a while but I learned alot. Quick question on the B14 rom timing map. To find ECU values subtract 128 from the blue cells, but what about the other values like the ones like 255, 254,222....
Thanks Jason, that website took me a while but I learned alot. Quick question on the B14 rom timing map. To find ECU values subtract 128 from the blue cells, but what about the other values like the ones like 255, 254,222....
TIA
You subtract 128 from the blue values in the timing map only, and this is only after you convert the HEX value to DEC.
I use the windows calculator for this. Switch it over to scientific mode, youll see in the upper left hand corner where it says, hex, dec, oct, bin.
To convert HEX to DEC, click the HEX option, type in the HEX value, then click the DEC option and you now have your DEC value.
Bringing this back from the dead a little...I'm a newb to this so bear with me here.
Rom burner = (e.g. Moates or Transtonics Pocket Programmer) hardware that burns the new prom that you put into Calum's daughter board.
Calum's consult box = hardware that allows one to interface with ECU
Calumsult = allows you to look at your engine sensors "real time."
ROM Editing software (e.g. ROM Editor or Live Edit) = used to change values in the maps that you eventually burn into a new prom.
My questions/things that need clarification are:
1) Do you use the ROM editing software in conjunction with the ROM burner? Or does the ROM burner come with it's own software?
2) What do you use the Calumsult software for? Is this a romulator or something else?
3) Do you use Calum's consult box and CalumSult together? I'm assuming yes, but
just checking...
4) Do you need to use a new prom every time you modify one of the maps or can you overwrite the exiting one kinda like a CD-RW.
Bringing this back from the dead a little...I'm a newb to this so bear with me here.
Rom burner = (e.g. Moates or Transtonics Pocket Programmer) hardware that burns the new prom that you put into Calum's daughter board.
Calum's consult box = hardware that allows one to interface with ECU
Calumsult = allows you to look at your engine sensors "real time."
ROM Editing software (e.g. ROM Editor or Live Edit) = used to change values in the maps that you eventually burn into a new prom.
My questions/things that need clarification are:
1) Do you use the ROM editing software in conjunction with the ROM burner? Or does the ROM burner come with it's own software?
2) What do you use the Calumsult software for? Is this a romulator or something else?
3) Do you use Calum's consult box and CalumSult together? I'm assuming yes, but
just checking...
4) Do you need to use a new prom every time you modify one of the maps or can you overwrite the exiting one kinda like a CD-RW.
Thanks,
Jason
1. Mine did. I have a Pocket Programmer. The software is stupid simple.
2. CalumSult is the software for his consult box.
3. Yes.
4. You can only rewrite a UV or Electrically erasable PROM (EEPROM/EPROM).
When you buy a daughterboard just make sure it has erasable chips.
1) The software that comes with the burner is just for dumping the finished files to the roms. Its just a utility. The software to edit the rom is different, generally.
2) CalumSult is for datalogging with the consult port. You really need this. You can use one of my boxes or buy someone elses. I have a version of CalumSult that works with a romulator, if anyone else is using them I'll upload it sometime. I've been working on a full blown editor for a while but just haven't had the time. I'll make a post about exactly what you need to do to run dual romulators if y'all are intrested.
3) Yep.
4) Just use flash roms. At the price point your at there is no point in using anything else. I only sell daughterboards with flash roms, updating them is really really easy, trust me.
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So your boards are available? I really want to get one of these before I start tuning my KA. It will probably defeat the purpose of me buying the RPM adaptor for the LM1 though.
The funny part is that I have Consult 1 and Consult 2 at work and I still want one of your boxes! The guys at work dont believe me that I can buy something very similar and fully functional (compared to the $5000 version) for WAY less.
1) The software that comes with the burner is just for dumping the finished files to the roms. Its just a utility. The software to edit the rom is different, generally.
2) CalumSult is for datalogging with the consult port. You really need this. You can use one of my boxes or buy someone elses. I have a version of CalumSult that works with a romulator, if anyone else is using them I'll upload it sometime. I've been working on a full blown editor for a while but just haven't had the time. I'll make a post about exactly what you need to do to run dual romulators if y'all are intrested.
3) Yep.
4) Just use flash roms. At the price point your at there is no point in using anything else. I only sell daughterboards with flash roms, updating them is really really easy, trust me.
1 - Thanks for the clarification around the rom burning software vs the rom editing software.
2 - I will be purchasing both of these, so no worries.
4 - what's the difference b/t a flash rom and a EEPROM/EPROM. I assume that there's a specific "rom" that I'll have to buy.
