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Old 07-25-2005, 12:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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No Spark At All After Swap

Well, we finally got our swap done, tried to start the car. It cranked but wouldn't start. We tested for spark, no luck at any of the plugs OR at the coil. We've tried 4 coils, 2 power transistors, multiple cables, and gone through endless diagnostic testing all the way back to the ECU: continuity, resistance, voltage, etc. As a point of reference, there is good voltage at the harness that connects to the bottom of the coil, so the ECU is sending a signal that is reaching it. We're baffled.

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Old 07-25-2005, 01:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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what diagnostics made you try 4 coils?
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Old 07-25-2005, 06:28 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What about the Ignitor chip?
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Old 07-25-2005, 07:26 AM   #4 (permalink)
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what diagnostics made you try 4 coils?
The procedure that has you test resistance between the pin on the coil harness and the top of the coil. We were getting an OL reading. Went to the running SE-R, and we got the appropriate resistance. Swapped in the known good SE-R coil, got the correct resistance, thought it would start, and...nothing.
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What about the Ignitor chip?
If by that you mean the power transistor, then yes, we tried two.
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Old 07-25-2005, 08:00 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Checked the distributor yet? It houses the CAS, and if it was bad, the car wouldnt start.
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Old 07-25-2005, 12:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Checked the distributor yet? It houses the CAS, and if it was bad, the car wouldnt start.
We can put another one in, but we're not getting spark from the coil, which is of course before the dist.
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grounded?
Which one? We tested for ground and it appears to be ok.
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Could there be an incompatibility of JDM/USDM pieces (distributor, coil, transistor) in the ingition system and how they communicate with one another?
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Old 07-25-2005, 02:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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whats the resistance of the primary wire??
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whats the resistance of the primary wire??
You mean on the coil?
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Old 07-25-2005, 05:35 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think you have to swap the USDM distributor orver, IIRC.
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I think you have to swap the USDM distributor orver, IIRC.
i did not when i did a ga16 to sr20.
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Old 07-25-2005, 06:03 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I GOT IT STARTED (intermittently) WHEN I TOOK A BREAK FOR LUNCH!

I decided to try to swap the O2 and the distributor connectors as Mike K. suggested. On our car, that would actually be physically impossible, as the O2 is a 3-wire and the distributor is a 2-wire. The connectors are totally different shapes. That said, the little black rubber insulator fell out of the distributor connector and so I hooked everything back up, and VOILA, it fired right up! It started 3 times, but then didn't on the fourth try. I unplugged and plugged the harness back in, and it made a clicking noise and then I was able to start it again. I'll futz with the connector/distributor some more now that I have identified the exact area.

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So yes, I was correct, it was a distributor problem.
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Glad you got it started, now get some silicone lubricant(the stuff you use on spark plug boots) and put some inside the electrical connector. Or you could use some dielectric jelly, or contact oil even! Just get sometihng in there to promote connection.
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Glad you got it started, now get some silicone lubricant(the stuff you use on spark plug boots) and put some inside the electrical connector. Or you could use some dielectric jelly, or contact oil even! Just get sometihng in there to promote connection.
Haha, yeah the distributor...sorta Was planning on spraying some electrical cleaner and yeah doing a bit of electrical lube. Thanks!
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