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Old 09-09-2003, 12:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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AC Freon Evacuation

heres my dilemma:

Im eliminating AC ... car is on jackstands, lotsa parts removed....so i cant really get it to a shop to evacuate the freon...i cracked a line just for curiousity..but after a lil leakage i could imagine the mess it would make.. anybody got an idea on how to get rid of all the freon without burning my house down, making a huge mess or killing all my brain cells (not many left)...any suggestions r appreciated...
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Old 09-09-2003, 04:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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you have 3 choices, the way i see it.
1.) throw it on a flatbed to a shop
2.) Have someone bring an evacuator to it
3.)illegally release it into the atmosphere
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Old 09-09-2003, 05:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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*Get a flat head screw driver
*Throw a t-shirt your hand and another over the evacuation tube thing.
*Release all the freon out.

YOU'RE DONE!!

Inhale a bit so you keep a smile on your face.
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Old 09-09-2003, 11:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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heres my dilemma:
.. anybody got an idea on how to get rid of all the freon without burning my house down, making a huge mess or killing all my brain cells (not many left)...any suggestions r appreciated...
From http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blfreon.htm:
Because Freon is non-toxic, it eliminated the danger posed by refrigerator leaks. In just a few years, compressor refrigerators using Freon would become the standard for almost all home kitchens. In 1930, Thomas Midgley held a demonstration of the physical properties of Freon for the American Chemical Society by inhaling a lung-full of the new wonder gas and breathing it out onto a candle flame, which was extinguished, thus showing the gas's non-toxicity and non-flammable properties.

Let the Freon® myths die!
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Old 09-09-2003, 11:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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well thanx for the info boys,, but i just threw a towel over it let some of it out for a few seconds then cracked a line.... i guess there wasnt much in there *** it didnt take too long.. sh*t, the car is 11 yrs old and never been serviced.. so its all out now... i hardly ever used ac... i had windows AND t-tops..helllz yeah.. **** need AC parts...LOL Thanks for all the tips homies, and i hope i didnt destroy too much Ozone..and if i did oh well i wont live long enough to see global warming...LOL
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Old 09-10-2003, 09:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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freon is non toxic but will harm he ozone, there probably wasn't much left after 11years, but if you inhale it it isn't good for you, the boiling point is very low, below freezing,so it instantly will turn to vapor when released into the atmosphere
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Old 09-10-2003, 10:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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evacuation

sure you can vent your ac system into the atmosphere, if you like men...because your gonna be spending a year in jail and paying a hefty $50k in fines. The EPA hates ozone depletion.
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With all the talk about "global warming" chew on this...

From http://www.babcox.com/editorial/tr/tr70244.htm
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Though R134a is nontoxic, nonflammable and contains no ozone damaging chlorine, it is a "greenhouse" gas that contributes to global warming. The U.S Environmental Protection Agency says R134a has a global warming potential that is 1,300 times greater than carbon dioxide (CO2)!

CO2 is a major issue with environmentalists because the rising level of CO2 in the atmosphere over the past century is causing a gradual rise in average worldwide temperature which some say may cause adverse changes in world climate patterns.

Excess CO2 in the atmosphere causes heat retention, creating a "greenhouse" effect that causes temperatures to rise over time. The boost in CO2 has been directly linked to the increased use of fossil fuels in industrialized countries and the growing world vehicle population.

....As long as R134a or any other refrigerant remains sealed inside an A/C system, it poses no environmental hazard. But if it leaks out, it remains in the atmosphere a long, long time and contributes to global warming.

According to new research that has been conducted by the EPA, measurable amounts of R134a are now being detected that indicate roughly 40 million pounds of R134a a year is somehow finding its way into the atmosphere. Forty million pounds of refrigerant is the equivalent of 53 million 12-ounce cans.
BTW, can anyone tell me what happens to freon after a certified shop captures it?
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Old 09-11-2003, 12:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
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the greedy fu*kers resell it at an unreasonable price!!!

fu*k the EPA, id like to see them prove i did it..LOL

just kidding ..please no one tell on me...LOL
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Old 09-11-2003, 02:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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if you have r134 freon...thats dangerous. and expensive. and you need a license just to buy the stuff. if you have the newer r12 stuff thats not as harmful. id say you shoulda just waited and taken it to a shop. think about your kids and their future. haha, hey i dont even have kids, but i still do this from time to time. anyway...i let my stuff into the atomosphere by accident. technically i didnt do it. my uncle did. he went all barbarian to get my alternator out and took out hella sh*t that he didnt need to. he ended up untightening my a/c bolt or wuteva and...PSSSSSSSSSSSHHHH...out came my a/c. im pissed *** its summer...or was. but damn...it was SOOOOO freggin hot. and he wont even pay for it to be recharged! fukker aint werkin on my car no merr!
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I think you got it mixed up.. r12 is the old gas and r134a the new type
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Old 09-11-2003, 04:50 PM   #13 (permalink)
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yep sato is right....
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Old 09-11-2003, 11:21 PM   #14 (permalink)
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r12 is old and outdated and very expensive and also very bad for the ozone...r-134a is much more ozone friendly and cheaper also
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I can get R12 for 10 bux a can with 1kilogram... and no license needed....
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Old 09-11-2003, 11:33 PM   #16 (permalink)
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i think its going for 60 a lb over here now, use 134a and save the ozone even if you can get it cheap, but you will not find it cheap in this country
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Old 09-12-2003, 12:52 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I dont believe in the Ozone anymore..LOL
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oh yea. sorry bout the mix up. i always get sh*t backwards. im thinkn bout sayin stuff backwards so it will come out straight! haha
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On a tangent:

IMHO, with r134a you're just displacing the damage.

Same with electric cars, you're displacing the energy use, not saving it.

Preaching on how bad freon is vs. r134a wastes your breath. They're both bad, and now there is tons of greenhouse-effect-causing R134a in the atmosphere.

Americans generally like to demonize one evil and blindly embrace another as salvation.

Bleed the sucker.
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