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um. just wondering which device i should use to get my stuff running properly faster. . The i hear of these AFC gadgets...but what company do they come from? I read a little on the S-AFC from APEX-i. Is this the one, or are there others? Im having a shop do all the tuning. I dont know much about this stuff so I dont wanna mess with it til I do. Thanx...
The Apexi SAFC is real easy and straight forward to use. Make sure you have some way to tell your a/f ratio before attempting to set it or else you can screw something up if you run too lean. If your shop has a dyno to play with, then the SAFC is a must get
The Apexi SAFC is real easy and straight forward to use. Make sure you have some way to tell your a/f ratio before attempting to set it or else you can screw something up if you run too lean. If your shop has a dyno to play with, then the SAFC is a must get
i agree this product is easy to use but read up on this forum about it there is a lot of good information on here. i read the directions it came with and they were sh*t if u ask me, hard to understand i think something is lost in the translation of something.
also look into the greedy emanage cause this is also a very good computer upgrade and if u get the aditional harnesses then u will end up having a lot more control.
u should run a a/f gauge and not a cheap auto meter one get a greddy one with the actual #`s. u can use a egt but your egt temps will rise from running rich or from running lean. but a dyno would definintley help with tuning>><<
yeah. the shop is call Motorsport Dynamics. They are like one of the 5 or so that APEX-i actually chose to have as a part of their A'PEX Power Excel Shops. Im purty happy they ended up here in Sacramento. Not enough up here...freggin SoCal...haha.
Hmm. What guages should i get. The exact ones. Whats wrong with AutoMeter guages? I herd they were good. This is from a Subaru guy. He installed my dad's boost and oil pressure guages in his WRX. looks PIMP and he said they were the best. Plus, my dad got a lot of quick help from them.
What guages ***. Im trying to buy some more electronic stuff for my car to keep it safe and running properly. Thanx for the help...I will look into that GReddy system.
u just need an acurate air fuel gague the auto meter air fuel gauge that has the red yellow orange light is inacurate thats all, the rest fo their gagues are good just the af gauge is not acurate. ryan
ahh. thats what you ment by numbers...okay. thanx.
im not too worried about gains. if i was, i wouldnt have my nissan. id buy a honda, spend 1000 and be runnin 12's. haha...jp. but this is just so i can get everything outta this engine. and i dont see how this will hurt. who said a properly tuned engine is bad? haha...
but like many other people. this is my car. until i sell it, i'll always be putting money into it. its a ever going project. so maybe money could be spent elsewhere...but *** end up buying it later on anyway. there's a lot i could stop buying, and just purchase go HELLA fast parts. and if i was really worried about money and going fast...id already have a turbo!
whoa...its raining outside...hella thunder. haha...just thought id add that.
whats the real big difference between the GReddy and APEX? which one would be better for which reasons. sorry i dont know much about this stuff...
oh. and anybody know some cheap places to get this stuff. options auto has the APEX unit for like 350. anyone find it cheaper? greddy lists their emange for like 379. plus about 230 in other wiring harness stuff...would i even need those??
Last edited by mYseRgOesvrOOm : 10-31-2003 at 05:12 PM.
yes you need a harness and data link connector, i have a dealer account with options so it was much cheaper for me. you don't neccessarily need the ign harness and the main one can be bought from a company in maylasia for around 40 i think. with the e-manage you can icrease inj size by 150% i believe while the afc is like 50%, also you have the ability to change fuel, timing maps in a 16x16 grid. and the injector correction factor is done in the software, and the software allows you to use different preprogrammed maf's. also it has the ability to add a map sensor
hmm. sounds complicated. so...for just a mild tuning device...the APEX. and for all out...the GReddy? hmm. gonna try to talk to the guys at MotoDyn today or tomorro. See what i should do and what they can do for me...thanx for all the info...very helpful...
Hmm. What guages should i get. The exact ones. Whats wrong with AutoMeter guages? I herd they were good. This is from a Subaru guy. He installed my dad's boost and oil pressure guages in his WRX. looks PIMP and he said they were the best. Plus, my dad got a lot of quick help from them.
What guages ***. Im trying to buy some more electronic stuff for my car to keep it safe and running properly. Thanx for the help...I will look into that GReddy system.
There's really nothing wrong with the accuracy of the autometer a/f gauges. The only problem is that you do not have exact voltage or a/f numbers. There is a total of 20 bars going from red - yellow - green. Each bar represents a voltage range of .05volts. You will only be able to know in which range the voltage is at but not know exactly. I think it is good enough for minor tuning. It reads the same voltage that the ecu reads and is very sensitive. After I installed 91intake cam, it was running one bar leaner.
the emanage is about the same price for the unit ALONE, but u need a few more things to tune it like the support tool and a labtop or access to one. u can use the dials if im not mistaken but the labtop helps a lot. u will spend more on the greddy but its is well worth the money if u ask me. if your patient u can piece the emanage together in time for a good price.
here is a website on the emanage that might help, the manaul is on there u can skim it also
oh yeah...ebay. haha...well i have a labtop. im on it right now. so that wont be a problem...hmm. the GReddy does sound better, while the APEX sounds easier. I'll see what the shop can do...Im likin the GReddy idea ***. thank you...
. The i hear of these AFC gadgets...but what company do they come from? I read a little on the S-AFC from APEX-i. Is this the one, or are there others? Im having a shop do all the tuning. I dont know much about this stuff so I dont wanna mess with it til I do. Thanx...
