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Please help!!! I am having my mechanic install the Tien SS on my 96' se-r. He is a racing buff who began talking over my head immediately. He is talking about the basic install of the coilovers taking 6 hours. 2 hours for the rear and 4 for the front. He's also talking about adjusting the pitch and yaw of the vehicle and working with the cross configuration to dial it in perfectly. He wants to charge me $590 to do all of this. I believe that the guy knows what he's talking about but damn that's a lot of money! Is it worth it? The guy has an 8 second Cheby Luv that he built himself and he has been racing for 25 years. He is a professional but he also likes to make money. Is there only one correct way to install these or is this overkill from a professional? Hoping to get back to him today so feedback would be helpful.
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92' NX2000 with G20 motor, Hyperco Gen 2's on AGX's, 15" ADR's
96' 200sx SE-R riding on Tein SS and 15" konig Holes.
__________________ Sam Bass / 1998 200SX SE-R
Atlanta, Georgia
Mods: JWT POP Filter, 91 Intake Cam, Stillen 4-1 Header, N1-style muffler, Front and rear STBs, Motivational Rear Strut Mounts, Hyperco/AGX's, ES Front & Rear Motor Mounts, ES Shifter Bushing, Pacesetter Quickshifter | In the works: AD22 Brakes
i rather pay around $240 for the front/rear pillowball mounts, and by doing so you wouldn't have to dissasemble your stock strut/spring assembly. then YOU can just take off the 2 bolts on the bottom, 3 nuts on the top, pull it out, put the tein setup and done. play around with the setup, do a basic front end alignment. then later, do your corner balancing and what not if you decide to get more serious on suspension.
Right! I know that a basic suspension install is much quicker but we do have to keep in mind that these bad boys are what, 36 way adjustable or something? They are just darn complex!
I actually already have the VZ-R mounts. It seems that this guy is trying to get me ready for soft compound rally racing and all I need for now is a decent suspension for daily driving and spirited weekend corner carving. He just seems to think that you do it all the way and get it technically right or its all wrong. IS this true or not?
He is a racing buff who began talking over my head immediately. He is talking about the basic install of the coilovers taking 6 hours. 2 hours for the rear and 4 for the front. He's also talking about adjusting the pitch and yaw of the vehicle and working with the cross configuration to dial it in perfectly.
I hope he is talking about putting the car on scales to corner weight the car and set the cross weights up properly. After that you have to do an alignment. On a B13 that can take a little while because the rear is adjustable. A lot easier on a B14.
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Originally Posted by Jason
Right! I know that a basic suspension install is much quicker but we do have to keep in mind that these bad boys are what, 36 way adjustable or something? They are just darn complex!
Actually, the rebound adjustment is what you are talking about. That is adjusted by the user after the basic install. To a degree it is user preference. If he is putting your car on scales and aligning it and installing it then that price is not crazy high. I was quoted 250 once for a alignment and corner weighting the car. Most shops don’t even have the scales to do that stuff. Most coilover cars never see a set of scales. They just set the height even and call it a day. That is never 100% right but it is close enough for most people. Ask him to see the scales and explain the process of the scales. That way you know he is doing that type of work and you are not getting taken. You can skip that step if you like. Installing the teins is really actually pretty easy. You don’t need a spring compressor because they come with new top hats in the front and back I am pretty sure. You unbolt about 14 bolts and just put the teins in and go get a alignment after you set the ride height.
Thanks you so much for the information! Yes, he does have the scales to corner weight the car, I have seen them. I am pretty sure, especially after talking to you, that he is being legit, but I am also becoming more and more convinced that it is also overkill for my purposes. Thanks for the info and feel free to give any additonal comments.
Spend the money on tools and do the job yourself. If you have a garage search "98sr20ve" for alignment info and learn to do all this stuff yourself also. You then could corner weight the car latter. For $250 you could do the entire job yourself and never pay for this stuff again in your life.
You man, thats a lot of money for a simple job, especially since you dont even have to take apart the stock assembly for transfer parts. But if you want it, get it.
yeah, i never cornerweighted my car. I don't see the point unless you spend a lot of track time and do it competitively. I'm just out there for fun so I set the heights as even as possible and called it a day. The only thing that makes a suspension install tough are stuck bolts. An impact wrench will take care of that.
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Khiem
'96 SE-R.... boost, brakes, suspension, etc... sold
'05 Evo
'05 CBR 600RR
Alright,
That settles it. I'm not going to do all of this complex corner weighting and what not. It's definately overkill for me right now. I really appreciate the comments everybody, it will save me a bundle of money!
