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I have just fitted a Pod Filter to my VZ-R Lucino, and now the car doesnt seem to be as quick as it was with the standard airbox??
Also, you cant hear when the VVL kicks in where before you could with the standard airbox??
Anyone know why this is
Cheers :-)
Hmmm Lucino VZR, rare as, wicked ride!
I'm going on the assumption that you've removed the factory airbox completely and replaced it with a pod-filter jammed on the end of the MAF...
The standard airbox has one major benefit over a WAI (Warm Air Intake), which is what you effectively have.
And that the factory airbox gets the air BEFORE it gets heated by the engine bay.
The WAI gets it's air from the hot, after a decent run and feel the temperature of the air as you open your bonnet.
Cold air is denser, and hot air is more likely to cause detonation, causing the computer to compensate.
There are a few articles around that highlight the effects of this.
I'll find the links and post them for you to peruse at your leisure.
It also looks like your a local
Give Majik Mike and Wizard Bazza a call on (09) 579 0828, they'll point you right.
I'm going on the assumption that you've removed the factory airbox completely and replaced it with a pod-filter jammed on the end of the MAF...
The standard airbox has one major benefit over a WAI (Warm Air Intake), which is what you effectively have.
And that the factory airbox gets the air BEFORE it gets heated by the engine bay.
The WAI gets it's air from the hot, after a decent run and feel the temperature of the air as you open your bonnet.
Cold air is denser, and hot air is more likely to cause detonation, causing the computer to compensate.
There are a few articles around that highlight the effects of this.
I'll find the links and post them for you to peruse at your leisure.
It also looks like your a local
Give Majik Mike and Wizard Bazza a call on (09) 579 0828, they'll point you right.
Good luck with the car.
Hi...
Yeah its a wicked factory ride !!
Correct, ive adapted the "AUTOTECHNICA POD" to the MAF. I was thinking of mounting the pod in the front bumper so it receives cold air not hot engine bay air. The link to those articles would be much appreciated.
I'm going on the assumption that you've removed the factory airbox completely and replaced it with a pod-filter jammed on the end of the MAF...
The standard airbox has one major benefit over a WAI (Warm Air Intake), which is what you effectively have.
And that the factory airbox gets the air BEFORE it gets heated by the engine bay.
The WAI gets it's air from the hot, after a decent run and feel the temperature of the air as you open your bonnet.
Cold air is denser, and hot air is more likely to cause detonation, causing the computer to compensate.
There are a few articles around that highlight the effects of this.
I'll find the links and post them for you to peruse at your leisure.
It also looks like your a local
Give Majik Mike and Wizard Bazza a call on (09) 579 0828, they'll point you right.
Good luck with the car.
hmmm that is strange, as another member on here (evldan) made some good gains on the dyno with a pod, we made up stainless steel intake (between the maf and t/b) plus a simple sheild and he gained 10-12whp with the new intake setup?! (that was in a blue top vzr)
have you re-set the ecu to make the most of the extra air getting sucked in by the pod? this tends to make a bit of a difference...other wise the ecu takes some weeks to alter.
good luck!
And also 'feeling' a change, using the 'seat-o-the-pants-o-meter' can be deceptive.
The only way to find out would be a back to back down a strip, or on the dyno.
Mind you the CAI versus WAI debate has never really been settled, on ANY forum that I've come across.
It makes sense to have colder air going into your intake, but at what cost to flow?
I'd try re-setting your ECU, then give it a while to adapt to the new addition; then see how it goes.
hmmm that is strange, as another member on here (evldan) made some good gains on the dyno with a pod, we made up stainless steel intake (between the maf and t/b) plus a simple sheild and he gained 10-12whp with the new intake setup?! (that was in a blue top vzr)
have you re-set the ecu to make the most of the extra air getting sucked in by the pod? this tends to make a bit of a difference...other wise the ecu takes some weeks to alter.
good luck!
Howdy...
I did see EVLDANs webpage and the noticeable increase in KW at the wheels froms the stainless intake. I also have the blue top VZ-R. I have put the standard airbox back in for now until I can sort out a better cold air intake... seriously thinking of mounting the pod in the front bumper or guard.
I did see EVLDANs webpage and the noticeable increase in KW at the wheels froms the stainless intake. I also have the blue top VZ-R. I have put the standard airbox back in for now until I can sort out a better cold air intake... seriously thinking of mounting the pod in the front bumper or guard.
BTW... How do you reset the ECU?
Cheers
Pretty impressive car, and site!
Doing the numbers, with the looks that's for sure.
The easiest way to re-set the ECU is to disconnect your battery for about 10 - 15minutes.
Another option is to visit Barry and Mike at Mt Smart Mechanical (09) 579 0828 and they'll put their fancy laptop and program with lead to work. And at the same time check for any fault codes, always a good look!
What ever you do choose, let us know what the result is!
Pretty impressive car, and site!
Doing the numbers, with the looks that's for sure.
The easiest way to re-set the ECU is to disconnect your battery for about 10 - 15minutes.
Another option is to visit Barry and Mike at Mt Smart Mechanical (09) 579 0828 and they'll put their fancy laptop and program with lead to work. And at the same time check for any fault codes, always a good look!
What ever you do choose, let us know what the result is!
Thanks for the info. I will keep you posted on my progress.
I did see EVLDANs webpage and the noticeable increase in KW at the wheels froms the stainless intake. I also have the blue top VZ-R. I have put the standard airbox back in for now until I can sort out a better cold air intake... seriously thinking of mounting the pod in the front bumper or guard.
BTW... How do you reset the ECU?
Cheers
Good luck with what ever way you go!
I guess it's totally up to how much you want to spend....
On Dan's VZR he didn't want to relocate the battery, and that short run with the stainless saves a tonne on factrication time and parts!!
We where totally stoked with the increase the intake gave!
there are a few kits out of the states that put the filter down in the gaurd, not sure how much that would cost, or what gains you'd potentially get on a vzr.
getting a baseline dyno run would be a good idea, then you know if your mods are making a difference
Good luck with what ever way you go!
I guess it's totally up to how much you want to spend....
On Dan's VZR he didn't want to relocate the battery, and that short run with the stainless saves a tonne on factrication time and parts!!
We where totally stoked with the increase the intake gave!
there are a few kits out of the states that put the filter down in the gaurd, not sure how much that would cost, or what gains you'd potentially get on a vzr.
getting a baseline dyno run would be a good idea, then you know if your mods are making a difference
I was thinking of putting the pod filter back on and using a heat shield to see if that makes a difference before I finally decide which way to go. I think it would be a good idea to dyno it first, then put the pod/heatshield on to see if it increases the KW.
I have just fitted a Pod Filter to my VZ-R Lucino, and now the car doesnt seem to be as quick as it was with the standard airbox??
Also, you cant hear when the VVL kicks in where before you could with the standard airbox??
Anyone know why this is
Cheers :-)
Its strange that you can't hear the cams change with the pod. I'v got the same engine and i could hardly hear anything with the standard intake yet as soon as i put a pod on, it really screamed!
I'v now got a CAI on it which seems to make a difference but it hasn't been on the dyno yet so can't be certain. def doesn't seem to have lost power in any way though
Its strange that you can't hear the cams change with the pod. I'v got the same engine and i could hardly hear anything with the standard intake yet as soon as i put a pod on, it really screamed!
I'v now got a CAI on it which seems to make a difference but it hasn't been on the dyno yet so can't be certain. def doesn't seem to have lost power in any way though
Hi...
It is strange. Maybe the Pod I have doesnt flow very well, and may have to change it. The pod and heat shield havent seem to make any difference, and the car certainly goes better with the factory CAI.. although the CAI does have a K & N Panel Filter in the box.
The car is more responsive down low with the pod, but as the revs get higher, it seems to die off where with the factory CAI, it pulls all the way to 8000 rpm, and you can feel and hear the VVL kick in??
Yeah strange, as soon I put a pod filter on mine the damn intake and VVL screamed!..then with the stainless intake it was even louder!
And that was with a cheapy Repco filter...it even did it when I put the Apexi filter on my N1!
Yeah strange, as soon I put a pod filter on mine the damn intake and VVL screamed!..then with the stainless intake it was even louder!
And that was with a cheapy Repco filter...it even did it when I put the Apexi filter on my N1!
I might have to go out and buy one of those WILDCAT Pods from Repco to see if its the Pod im using at the mo.
