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Old 02-21-2002, 08:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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UR Pulleys for the VE

Is the crank pulley the same on the B15 and sr20ve ?

I know there not the same on the B14, but I remember someone saying the B15 has the same crank found in the SR20VE.

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Old 02-23-2002, 06:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I talked with Joe at Unorthodox and he said they are not sure if the B14 pulleys work on the SR20VE. I am going to try and put some on and I'll post back with the results.
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Old 02-23-2002, 09:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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They will not work with the VE. The VE has a larger volume oil pump and it requires the use of a VE (stock) or Gti-R (Modified) crank pulley that has been modified to clear the hump in the timing cover due to the larger volume pump. UR would have to create a new crank pulley. Also, the dog or drive for the crank is a different depth whichh in turn means that the belt wouldn't line up.
Please don't ask how I know this........

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Old 02-23-2002, 09:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I kind of figured the crank pulley wouldn't work. As I was speaking with Joe at Unorthodox he said they were going to do a limited run of DET crank pulleys in the near future.

This pulley should work, right?
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Old 02-23-2002, 09:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The BB DET crank pulley is the same as the DE.
The GTi-R crank pulley is the same as the VE.
I hope this clears it up.

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Old 02-23-2002, 10:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I guess Joe probably meant the GTIR pulley but he said DET.

I'll call them again on Monday and see what they can do.
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Old 02-24-2002, 09:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I guess Joe probably meant the GTIR pulley but he said DET.

I'll call them again on Monday and see what they can do.
Charles, keep me posted on availability of a crank pulley for the VE.

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Old 03-04-2002, 09:26 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Hey guys,
I have a picture of an underdrive pulley from the guys off the GTi-R list if anyone is interested? I would post the picture here, but I have no idea how to do it...... can anyone help me with posting a picture??

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Old 03-04-2002, 09:37 AM   #9 (permalink)
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To post a picture:

1st. Load the picture on a public server like imagestation.com
2nd. In your post type:

(img)the url of the picture(/img)

ex. (img)www.imagestation.com/picture/###(/img)

You will have to replace all of the paranthesis ( ) above with brackets [ ]. I had to use parenthesis or else it would try to display an actual picture and I could not show you an example.
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Old 03-05-2002, 08:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I talked with Joe at Unorthodox and he said they are not sure if the B14 pulleys work on the SR20VE. I am going to try and put some on and I'll post back with the results.
I had a UR crank pulley on my B13 and it fits just fine on the VE. All the belts line up and there are no clearance issues in the oil pump area as mentioned by Turbo91SER.

The motor is in the car now along with a new Fidanza 8 lb. flywheel and a Quaife differential. Just waiting for my ECU, put the finishing touches on the wiring and a new header from Hotshot. I'll use the DE header just to get it started. Hopefully it'll be running weekend after next.
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Great Jim, glad you got it in.

Were there any wiring issues during the install ?? Anything other than the solenoids need to be rewired? Anything else I should be prepared for when installing mine?

My exhaust manifold is at Extrudehone right now and when it gets back I'm sending it to John at Hotshot who is going to make a downpipe for me. (remember, I'm going for the stock look) I'm still looking at 2-3 weeks before installation.
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Were there any wiring issues during the install ?? Anything other than the solenoids need to be rewired? Anything else I should be prepared for when installing mine?
Mechanically the installation was a breeze. I used all of the DE harness including the injector wires which are tucked up underneath the intake manifold. I haven't had time to finish the wiring but everything except the solenoids and the distributor are plug and play for the most part. Some sensors are located in a different spot requiring some rerouting of the harnesses but nothing major. Remember, mine is a 94 which means my coil and ignitor are external. This creates a bit more work but nothing that can't be overcome. I've decided to use the stock ignition instead of the MSD for the time being. This will simplify wiring the RPM switches. I will likely return the MSD 6AL for a refund.
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Old 03-06-2002, 08:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Good stuff!

Have you taken any pics of the install, Jim?

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Good stuff!

Have you taken any pics of the install, Jim?

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Old 03-07-2002, 09:56 AM   #15 (permalink)
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That's the important part, anyway!

I look forward to eventually seeing it in person. Good luck with the rest of the install, I hope everything goes smoothly.
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Old 03-07-2002, 12:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I'll use the DE header just to get it started. Hopefully it'll be running weekend after next.
Hey, have you read this guys site:

http://www.gonzonx.com/nxindex/nxindex.html

He says that the header for the DE was "CHOKING" his VE. Just thought I would let you know.
I assume you are putting a VE in your car.

Man would I love to know what that could run at the track in 1/4 mile! I am actually contemplating building a "Drag Strip" Sentra down the road. I want it to be NA/All Motor, and I was thinking of using the B14 platform with the SR20VE, but it's seeming more and more that performance mods would be tough for the VE and I wouldn't want to have to deal with having customer headers built. So now im thinking of staying with the SR20DE and doing everything imaginable:Header, Intake, Exhaust, Cams, Pulleys, P&P heads, JWT ECU, etc.......

Heck, road course racing is becoming more and more appealing to me so maybe I'll do a Drag/Road Racer hybrid sentra.

or maybe im just dreaming..........................



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Old 03-07-2002, 01:45 PM   #17 (permalink)
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By the time that you did "everything" possible to a DE, you would have invested a considerable amount of money more than a VE, adn wouldn't have as nice of a power band as the VE has. Infact, I would imagine that a VE, with intake, and exhaust, would give just about any built NA a run for its money, short of the BTCC primera SR20.
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Hey, have you read this guys site:

http://www.gonzonx.com/nxindex/nxindex.html

He says that the header for the DE was "CHOKING" his VE. Just thought I would let you know.
I assume you are putting a VE in your car.
I know him well and am aware of the constrictions. I'll be using the DE header only to get the car started. I'm going to buy a VE header which is currently being developed by Hotshot. By the time it's available the roads will be free of salt and the car will be ready for another season of summer fun.
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Old 03-08-2002, 09:53 AM   #19 (permalink)
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By the time that you did "everything" possible to a DE, you would have invested a considerable amount of money more than a VE, adn wouldn't have as nice of a power band as the VE has. Infact, I would imagine that a VE, with intake, and exhaust, would give just about any built NA a run for its money, short of the BTCC primera SR20.
Yeah, your probably right, it's just that in my case, if I were to start this project, I wouldn't have the $2300-$2500 up front to buy the VE. Whereas, I could get the DE for around $500-$600 and just add on gradually. Decisions, decisions

Well, maybe by the time I get to do it all, the VE will have come down on price.
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Yeah, your probably right, it's just that in my case, if I were to start this project, I wouldn't have the $2300-$2500 up front to buy the VE. Whereas, I could get the DE for around $500-$600 and just add on gradually. Decisions, decisions

Well, maybe by the time I get to do it all, the VE will have come down on price.
As someone who has bought every conceivable mod for an SR20DE (I mean everything!) I can assure you, you will not see 13's and still have a streetable car.

The only real way to go is turbo or VE. If you can't afford a VE or you want the most power - go turbo. You can get a DET for $1500.
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