VE Valve Shims

honkeybizkit · 12-17-2005, 02:37 AM

I want to know the size range for the VE valve shims. I was checking a head and i think the smallest was about 2.67mm, the largest was 2.81mm, thats just .01 larger than the smallest DE shim. (DE's go from 2.80-3.20)

What am i supposed to do after putting my head back together and re-checking clearance? Have my machine-shop mill some thick DE shims to size?!

Does Mossy have the ability to get VE shims? they probably list at about $10ea.

matt20v · 12-17-2005, 05:31 PM

the shims are super expensive. I'm pretty sure the shim ranges are very similair to the de. When i had a valve job done I had the machine shop set the valve lash. I know he did it with what he had. So its possible he may of shaved the valve's a bit on some. What i do know is it used to tick bad, now it's quiet as ever.

BORNGEARHEAD · 12-17-2005, 06:29 PM

Available valve shim sizes are in the "Service Data and Specs" section in the back of the "Engine Mechanical" section of the factory service manual. If you need me to list them I can. They go from 2.00mm(.0787in)-2.98mm(.1173in)

honkeybizkit · 12-17-2005, 11:17 PM

In the back of my FSM (b14) it shows the shims from 2.800-3.200... What FSM are you looking at?

BORNGEARHEAD · 12-18-2005, 12:20 AM

Hmm. The numbers I posted are from my 93 manual.

honkeybizkit · 12-18-2005, 12:39 AM

AHA! the 2.00-2.98 are for the B13 GA16DE, not the same diameter shim as they sit on the lifter above the spring/retainer.

thanks though.

BORNGEARHEAD · 12-18-2005, 02:16 AM

Ya, I sometimes have a problem thinking before I speak but I'm glad I could help find the info.

MackDad · 01-01-2006, 07:41 PM

I have never heard of a mechanical valvetrain using shims....Are you sure that these VE engines use shims?

turboAZ2 · 01-01-2006, 09:27 PM

shims on the valve springs, not on the lifters.

Sabre 200 Gxi · 01-03-2006, 03:18 AM

So just to clarify, the thickness of the shims located on top of the valve springs under the rockers range from 2.8 to 3.2mm in thickness, and the clearance between the rockers and the low cam lobes needs to be 0.15mm ?

honkeybizkit · 01-03-2006, 09:59 AM

the shims cannot be 2.8-3.2 as i have some in the 2.6's in my head. I still never recieved an answer.

Sabre 200 Gxi · 01-03-2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by honkeybizkit

the shims cannot be 2.8-3.2 as i have some in the 2.6's in my head. I still never recieved an answer.

Okay it seems those are for the B14 which I presume is a RR motor.

What do you have?

I'm also interested in the VE ones if anyone has them...?

Sabre 200 Gxi · 01-03-2006, 10:42 AM

I think your original suggestion of milling the DE shims smaller to get your desired lash would be perfect.

So if you can find the correct clearance or lash then you're sorted. (And you will answer my question simultaneously :-) It seems to be 0.15mm though...inconclusive so far.

blackb13se-r · 05-21-2006, 11:53 PM

so de shims work there just too tall, so you'll need to grind them down a bit?

derm · 05-22-2006, 03:41 AM

0.2mm on intake cold
0.3mm in exhaust cold

macakin · 05-22-2006, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by derm

0.2mm on intake cold
0.3mm in exhaust cold

Thats's what i needed to know, my VE head is thicking bad too. This specs are for the VE shims, right?

derm · 05-22-2006, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by macakin

Thats's what i needed to know, my VE head is thicking bad too. This specs are for the VE shims, right?

Yip it is