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Old 10-21-2006, 07:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cam cap bolts???

Ok wtf is going on here. How much TQ are you suppose to put on them? I tried 13lbs with the TQ wrench and I just broke one!!!!!! This is the 2nd one I have broken so far, lucky I have a extra motor to steal bolts from but I'm going to have to replace them soon when I have to use that motor.
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Old 10-21-2006, 08:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ok wtf is going on here. How much TQ are you suppose to put on them? I tried 13lbs with the TQ wrench and I just broke one!!!!!! This is the 2nd one I have broken so far, lucky I have a extra motor to steal bolts from but I'm going to have to replace them soon when I have to use that motor.
6-8lbs(10MM) 17-19lbs(12mm)
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Old 10-21-2006, 09:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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where did you find the info? are you using a regular sr20 FSM? or a non translated VE one?
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Old 10-21-2006, 10:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That blows... how are you planning on getting the bolts out of the head?
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Old 10-21-2006, 10:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I was looking in the DE manual well good to know. I got the broken one out and got the replacement in already. I used a easy out to get it out, just drilled the pilot hole with the drill bit then use the easy out and bam it's out .
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Old 10-22-2006, 02:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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sorry, what i should have said was, "hey nismo1997, where did you find those correct torque values? " i ask because i took the head totally apart because i had to send it to a machine shop, and i want to put it back together properly.
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Old 10-23-2006, 10:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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yeah the 10mm's are 6.7-8.7 ft lbs.

oh and a nice trick for drilling the pilot hole, wrap some electrical tape around the top of the bit so its about the size of the hole, so you dont booger up the threads.
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
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sorry, what i should have said was, "hey nismo1997, where did you find those correct torque values? " i ask because i took the head totally apart because i had to send it to a machine shop, and i want to put it back together properly.
Factory service manual. Also JWT has a write up on there site.
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
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What kind of torque wrench are you using? You need an INCH pounds wrench. 'Regular' torque wrenches can't be trusted when dealing with such low torque ranges.

Also, you need to torque the cam bolts down little by little, drawing the cam down into the head until the caps finally come in contact with the head.

There are 5 cam caps per cam, and 2 bolts per cam, arranged as such:

1---3---5---7---9
2---4---6---8---10

What you want to do is go in the following sequence - 1,4,5,8,9,2,3,6,7,10

When you do this, use a 1/4" drive ratchet, NOTHING BIGGER!, and hold it by the head, NOT the end of the handle. Start by turning the bolts down until the bolt head just touches the top of each cap. Now turn each bolt gently, 1/2 turn at a time, following the pattern above. As you go, you will S L O W L Y be pulling the cam down into the head, little by little. Once all of the the cam caps have come in contact with the head, you change the pattern to 5,6,3,4,7,8,1,2,9,10 and proceed to torque them down to 1.4ft-lb (basically impossible), then 4.3 lb, again this is so little torque you could do it with one finger, and finally 6.7 to 8.7ft-lb. I do the first two steps by feel, and then use my torque wrench set to 100in-lb.

This is from JWT's instructions -
http://jimwolftechnology.com/wolfpdf...NSTFORSR20.PDF

Evenly tighten 1/2 turn on each bolt until all of the caps are snug (1.4 ft-lb and again to 4.3 ft-lb). Then final torque the bolts from the center bolts outward to 6.7 to 8.7 ft -lb for all of the bolts with a 10 M.M. head. The 2 larger bolts (12M.M. head) closest the distributor are torqued to 13 to 19 ft-lb.

I've done at least a dozen cam swaps and have never ever broken one bolt. Eric96SER and a number of other old schoolers can say the same thing. I'm not bragging, I'm telling you from experience, that you have to be incredibly patient and gentle when you install cams. It takes me two hours to do a cam swap, and I'm using power tools for allot of the job, so you can get an idea that I spend allot of time getting the cam caps snugged down.

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Old 10-24-2006, 04:39 AM   #10 (permalink)
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It was my fault all the way. I was looking at the FSM in pdf format and thought it called for 13lbs on the cam cap bolts lol. I got them all down slowly then I started to TQ the 1st one and that broke. Live an learn I just hope I don't forget again lol.
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:02 AM   #11 (permalink)
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They arent much and they dont need much torque. I torque mine to 10nm.
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