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Nice car you got there. How difficult was it to
install the SR20ve into your 200sx. I have a 95
Sentra that I was going to get rid off, but if
the swap is straight forward I might just keep it.
The Ve sounds good,but most of the links on the FAQ dont show up on my computer they are japanese. Are there any good english sites? Also the c3 cams should help out more then the s4 for hp needs on a de right? I realy dont want to go turbo my friend has had major problems with his SR20DET,not the motor but trany. Sorry this is my frist time posting so correct me if I did something wrong.
Originally posted by nasr20de The Ve sounds good,but most of the links on the FAQ dont show up on my computer they are japanese. Are there any good english sites? Also the c3 cams should help out more then the s4 for hp needs on a de right? I realy dont want to go turbo my friend has had major problems with his SR20DET,not the motor but trany. Sorry this is my frist time posting so correct me if I did something wrong.
If you can see the Japanese text then use www.altavista.com to translate sections of text. Yes, the C3 cams will provide more power then the s4's but they also require new springs and retainers. The VE is the way to go with our cars if you want a daily driven NA car. It's really not that complicated as far as the VE is concerned. Just think variable valve timing and lift for a Nissan. You can also trigger the intake and the exhaust separately. This smoothes out the power spike from the switch. Expect 170-175 whp with a VE and about a high 13-second full interior car. The sr20ve also has more torque then the average Acura v-tech engine.
It doesnt matter if it is turbo or n/a to acheive 13 seconds you need a good amount of hp and the trans has some weaks spots that cause failure. Some tactics to battle against the breakdown of the trans are shotpeening and welding the case and cryo treating the gears. Also polyurethyne motor and trans mounts are excellent but cause more vibration in the steering wheel.
I got a quote of 900 to shotpeen, weld and cryo treat a trans, but this was a speed shop sending it out, so if you can find someone direct and cut out the middle man you can proabably get it cheaper. I plan to get this done when I get the money for a VE swap.
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thanxs. That will be more then useful. I knew the ve was a killer motor about 2years ago when I frist saw it. Everyone said it was real hard to put in and computer was worse. I guess they got that fixed how updated are the prices on the faq?
Originally posted by nasr20de how updated are the prices on the faq?
Very! It's hard to get a VE. I have been willing to write a check for months. The supply is low and the demand appears high. Andreas told me he has a guy in Japan now looking to fill a container of VE's. Maybe that will solve the problem. You can try other shops but I am waiting for Andreas to get this worked out.
My friend broke his second trany that was cryo treated.He broke 3rd gear again, but this was on a DET. I have never really heard of n/a cars haveing this problem,becuase of the lower ft/lbs they put out. The ve is said to put out only like 15 more then stock. I was hoping that it would be better for the trany.
Originally posted by bigtom my ve dyno'd at 186whp, thats way more than a stock de. 13sec all motor will happen with a sr20ve. i have seen one run 13.7 full interior.
I think he meant 15 more ft/lbs of torque...
And yeah your right I havent seen the trans break down as much with NA as with Turbo.. could be the torque...
Still i say get the trans treated anyway, preventative medicine is the best.
Originally posted by 98sr20de Was this with or without the sr16ve cams.
Steve
Edit: I am referring to the 13.7 time
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without the sr16ve cams....
(i'm pretty sure), i don't think that bigtom's car has the sr16ve cams either... and he runs a 12.8 (race prepped car)
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WOW i have an n/a sr20 and im cutting it close to the 13sec range, yes its gutted . I have also splitt a tranny case in half!!!
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really what kinda stuff did you get done to get that fast.
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engine is stock cept for the fact that i relocated my alt to where the p/steering pump used to be header exhaust seriuos weight reduction solid motor mounts suspension bush ram air intake lawn tractor battery well lots of stuff really but a stock motor w/159k on it now daily driver
weight reduction makes a big difference. i removed lots of weight. took the time to remove all unnecesary sheet metal and brackets with a spot weld drill. almost 60lbs of junk there. 2 coats of paint at nearly 15lbs...never thought paint was so heavy. removed 35lbs from each door. all that sound dampening stuff on the floor pan was about 35 lbs. gas tank and fuel lines was about 35lbs. all the interior who knows i just tore it all out. all that work only got me 5 tenths in the 1/4mi. but i guess its worth it. one piece carbon fiber front end coming soon along with carbon fiber doors and trunk. hopefully another 200lbs will come off and maybe another 2 tenths. hmm 12.6 all motor does sound cool. almost hitting 13s with a de is great. cant wait til you get there ALLMOTORSENTRA. yes n/a can break trannies just not so easy.
removing your rear and passenger seat is not likely to make a difference but heck...every little bit helps.
ALLMOTORSENTRA you should be able to go way faster than that. If you do the right motor mod you should be able to get mid 13s easy. My 94 SE-Rs weight is 2450 pounds or 2600 with me in it and I ran 14.2 at 97 MPH on a stock bottom end and head. There was every type of bolton you can think of on it. These times could have been better because I ran the car twice only NA on 24 x 9 x 15 slicks which are my NOS slick. These slicks are a little to large for NA pulls. If I had run 22 X 8 X 15 I would have gotten 13s easy but I only realy do NOS cars and turbo cars so I do not have smaller slick to give it a try,here are my times.
