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I think I have a way of getting a couple headers like Jim has. Does anyone else want to get a header for their upcoming VE project. I don't know the price but might be able to nail it down next week.
steve-i did not know jim has a fujitsubo header. I have not seen pics of these headers on the forum and couldnt find a decent pic on their webpage, but have heard nothing but good things about them-which leads me to hope that these are good quality headers with mugen type-quality. in which case i am totally interested in owning one for myself for me future ve swap.
can you send me a pic or give me a link for a good pic???
thanks, steve
Originally posted by JDM_2ner can you send me a pic or give me a link for a good pic???
thanks, steve
I can tell you it looks very good. They make two version one cost 60,000 and the other cost 87,000. I am pretty sure Jim's was the 60,000 and that the only difference is that one is polished and the other is not. Here is a link. Click on Super EX, then car in the top right side, then page over using the red button, then click on the one that is for the sr20ve. I tried a direct link but it wouldn't work.
I have a real picture of his car, but don't have a scanner.
I got to thinking about this header..................it's a 4-2-1 right????
well if so, 4-2-1s generally are designed for mid-range power. the header is designed for the lower revving 2.0 ve motor, and not the higher revving 1.6 ve motor. my point is that i will have a 1.6 stroked to 2.0, and i will stil be revving to upearwds of 8K. Im pretty sure this header was designed to make power to 7200 rpm (the sr20ve r/l), thus will i be losing top end power on my future engine?????????????????????????????
or just tell me im wrong and smack the sh*t out of me for thinking too hard!
also, jim, i read in one of the other posts that the 3rd peice of the header has to be modified, or replaced. this is the last peice right? and why?
Originally posted by JDM_2ner Im pretty sure this header was designed to make power to 7200 rpm (the sr20ve r/l), thus will i be losing top end power on my future engine?????????????????????????????
also, jim, i read in one of the other posts that the 3rd peice of the header has to be modified, or replaced. this is the last peice right? and why?
From what I could tell the power on a VE starts to drop off after 7k rpm's so there really isn't any need to rev past that anyway. I was shifting at 7k rpm's at Mosport and still kept the motor on the higher cams.
Initially I anticipated having to modify the thrid piece of the header to make it fit but much to my surprize it bolted right on. I wouldn't have guessed the P11 and B13/B14 have the same exhaust dimensions but they do.
I got your PM but what I need is your email address to send some pictures, not your user name.
Originally posted by JDM_2ner I got to thinking about this header..................it's a 4-2-1 right????
well if so, 4-2-1s generally are designed for mid-range power. the header is designed for the lower revving 2.0 ve motor, and not the higher revving 1.6 ve motor. my point is that i will have a 1.6 stroked to 2.0, and i will stil be revving to upearwds of 8K. Im pretty sure this header was designed to make power to 7200 rpm (the sr20ve r/l), thus will i be losing top end power on my future engine?????????????????????????????
or just tell me im wrong and smack the sh*t out of me for thinking too hard!
also, jim, i read in one of the other posts that the 3rd peice of the header has to be modified, or replaced. this is the last peice right? and why?
In theory you are not wrong. But that does not in any way mean that the 4-2-1 will perform poorly on the VE with the sr16 cams. It was designed for the SR20VE and for 7200rpm, it will be a major upgrade over the oem piece. Your other options are to find a used AEBS (?) header for a DE. Bigtom has this and gets good results, or get a custom header made for $1000.
The sr20VE with sr16 cams will have a power peak in the 7500-7700 rpm range. The bigger 16 cams in the bigger 20 engine de-cams it a bit.
Jim, thanks for all the great pics!!! That header looks absolutely gorgeous! I may still look into having a custom 4-1 header fabricated if Andreas wants to do it.
