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I finaly came down to two engines i admire alot the sr16ve and the sr20ve. Now heres my problem which one do I get?? I wont be making this purchase sometime soon but hopfully by next year. Here's what i say
sr16ve
Pros
cheaper
revs higher
more aggressive cams
cons
alot lower tq littel less hp
sr20ve
pros more tq and hp
can get 16ve cams
cons coast more
i like a higher reving engine
less aggressive cams
Alright thats what i have i am not sure still. Thats why all of you are here to please give me your input and your opinions on both engines to help me make up my mind. Thank you very much for your help.
CORY
ps this will be swaped into a b13 sentra E (in place of a ga16de)
so, why dont you just get the best of both worlds and buy an sr16ve and stroke it to 2L. Its cheaper than buyer an sr20ve, and it will have the more aggresive cams.
just my .02
Originally posted by JDM_2ner so, why dont you just get the best of both worlds and buy an sr16ve and stroke it to 2L. Its cheaper than buyer an sr20ve, and it will have the more aggresive cams.
just my .02
Sounds good will any sr20de bottom end parts fit the sr16ve so that itlls be a 2.0. Or does it have to be a certain year or somthing.
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Originally posted by bigtom you can usually get the sr16 with an sr tranny too. youre gonna need it.
When you purchase the sr16ve do you have to request to get the sr tranny?? Is there any certain place that would be the best to purchase this engine. Also if i had the sr16ve ecu would i still need a way to trigger the vvl??
Originally posted by slvrsentra
When you purchase the sr16ve do you have to request to get the sr tranny?? Is there any certain place that would be the best to purchase this engine. Also if i had the sr16ve ecu would i still need a way to trigger the vvl??
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH
CORY
Most places only sell the engine, some sell them both as a package. You probably have to specify if you need the transaxle as well. You would need the axles to work too.
As for the ecu, it would work fine its just that the Japanese Ecu's have a low speedlimiter
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any sr20 bottem ends parts are pretty much all the same as in they are interchangeable. they are not all alike though. the new rollerrocker motor found in the new se-l (B15) are the most like the ve's. so if you buy an sr16, it would be beneficial to buy a 2000-2001 se 4-counterweight crank, because it is more balanced i think, and lighter. you'll need some sr20ve pistons, and any sr20de rods will work. Then just swap away.
And i think there is a big post on vvl activation........
please correct me someone if this info isnt totally correct. this is my research in summary from the newbie stage!!
there is a guy, lenny wu, in fl. he has an ad on se-r.net he is selling a package deal sr16 engine, tranny, and the big maf for 1900 i think. it also comes with the harness but i dont think it will work with your car. it would be easier to rewire the 1.6 harness.
Originally posted by bigtom there is a guy, lenny wu, in fl. he has an ad on se-r.net he is selling a package deal sr16 engine, tranny, and the big maf for 1900 i think. it also comes with the harness but i dont think it will work with your car. it would be easier to rewire the 1.6 harness.
Yeah i saw this ad its for 2k including pretty much everything.
heres the ad
Rare Nissan SR16VE complete w/super close ratio LSD tranny, MAF, harness, ECU, crossmember, accessories. In stock now!
So are you saying i should use the 16ve ecu and rewire my ga16de harness??? So in that case i would need some msd rpm switches right?? So if used the 16ve ecu i wouldnt need the jwt program right??
depending on the year of your car you might need to get either the ve ecu or the ga16 ecu reprogrammed. the sr16 will lack low end torque. my guess is it should run evenly from light to light with a slightly modded se-r.
Originally posted by bigtom depending on the year of your car you might need to get either the ve ecu or the ga16 ecu reprogrammed. the sr16 will lack low end torque. my guess is it should run evenly from light to light with a slightly modded se-r.
So youre saying that a slightly modded SER will run evenly with a Integra GSR? If so whats lightly modded? I/H/E? or I/H/E cams, and pulleys?
well with that amount of hp i would think that an sr16 would kill a modded se-r regardless of the low torque. Ive never seen a dyno plot of the motor or do i have experience with ve engines so i dont really know but i do know that high hp will compensate for low torque when it comes to dragracing.
as far as slightly modded, i had i/h/e on my old 97 and would kill gsr's on the track or on the street even if they are slightly modded or not. i dont understand your point civicdragon.
Originally posted by mapball well with that amount of hp i would think that an sr16 would kill a modded se-r regardless of the low torque. Ive never seen a dyno plot of the motor or do i have experience with ve engines so i dont really know but i do know that high hp will compensate for low torque when it comes to dragracing.
as far as slightly modded, i had i/h/e on my old 97 and would kill gsr's on the track or on the street even if they are slightly modded or not. i dont understand your point civicdragon.
markp
classic 91
My point is that the motors are similar... although the GSR's motor has a bit more torque, the car has a bit more weight to it... teh 16ve has more hp but a bit less torque kinda evening out the power/weight ratio... so my point is that if a modded ser would keep up with a 16ve then it would be a little faster than a GSR.
I'm just trying to see how fast it would be. I used to be a Honda guy, I had a GSR but now I have a SER and my car still amazes me everyday. Its pretty cool to add some cams and some bolts on and beat GSR's. I just never raced many Nissan's cause wehn you got a Honda its mostly other Honda's you want to race, it was like who gives a f*ck about Nissan.
So my point is basically I'm just trying to get a comparison in my mind based on what I know...
ok gotcha... yea your right.. the numbers are similar, i didnt even put that together.. hehe.. but i guess what it comes down to is power curves. I'd love to see a dyno. doesnt vvl kick in twice once at low rpms and high?
Originally posted by bigtom depending on the year of your car you might need to get either the ve ecu or the ga16 ecu reprogrammed. the sr16 will lack low end torque. my guess is it should run evenly from light to light with a slightly modded se-r.
I have a 93 b13 sentra does that make any more of a diffrence or would i just have to get the ga ecu reprogramed?? If i was able to use the ve ecu does that mean i could use the ve harness or would i have to use the ga harness and rewire??
Originally posted by civicdragon What mototr is that? 20ve? If so then the HP numbers are underratted which is good for us =)
BTW what trans did she have on the car?
176hp at the wheel is actually more than 187 crank horsepower so Amber's car is by no means underated. It would actually have about 200-210hp at the crank. I believe it is a stock DE trans.
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Originally posted by slvrsentra I have a 93 b13 sentra does that make any more of a diffrence or would i just have to get the ga ecu reprogramed?? If i was able to use the ve ecu does that mean i could use the ve harness or would i have to use the ga harness and rewire??
You would need an SR20 ecu so you would need to buy one and then have it reprogrammed by JWT for a VE. I would love for you to try the VE ecu and let us know if it works. I believe your harness will plug right in. If you can use the VE ecu then you can use the VE harness.
Thanks for they help i am going to go ahead and try to use the ve ecu and harness at first and ill se how that turn out. If worst comes to worst i can just go the sr20de way. Also about the tranny will the fwd pulsar tranny that it comes with fit right up in my car or will i have to get rid of it and find me a sr20de tranny?? I hear talk abou the distributer needing rewire would i need a sr20de distributer and external coil setup??
