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Here's the scoop. I have a sr20de and ve motor on the way to my house for my 1972 dime sedan. First I will try and put the DE tranny on the VE motor. If that does not work I will swap heads. I know you can do the head swap as we have seen on some threads and boy was that sweet with pics and all, but how hard is it really? Now about putting the DE tranny on the VE motor? Can it be done? It has been done in Japan and word is that it was done without an adaptor?? Could this be true? And if not how would we know if it can not be done. I'm going to find out in about a week. And if it is true would it be easier than the head swap? I'm inserting the motor with the Maddat kit,Haltec etc and I have talked to many people who have used this for their SR20DET's and they have said it was perfect for the job. I'm really a newbe but I'm lucky to have a brother who has done many 240 swaps to turbo. I am still trying to get as educated as I can so I can be a bigger help during the swap.
Sounds like you got allot of reading to do man, I would try and put in a few good hours before attempting this swap. Do not take that as an insult at all, I am in no way claiming to know more then you but I just wanted to point that out. On this forum there is sh*t tons of information, and all the questions have already been asked. Of coarse I mean in direct relation to this swap, as I have no idea of how much mechanical knowledge/experience you have already.
That said, SEARCH, you wont believe how much information you will learn! Trust me, it can be annoying at first but you can find anything on here.
Lastly, yes the tranny does mate up with no modifications what so ever. In fact the whole ve swap does not require that much modification, although some things need to be changed/altered to fit up correctly, but nothing major.
NO one will ever write out all you need to know at this point in the game unless you paid them. But searching is really easy and you can find write-ups on all the work required for the swap.
Hope I didn't offend, if you cannot find anything on here, feel free to ask, we are happy to help. Gl you will love this motor, take care of her
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Dudeman thanks soooo much. I'm pretty happy in knowing that the tranny switch will work, like I said before I have only seen pictures on the net of the tranny swap. I will have everything I need to do the swap plus a full shop with lifts and anything else you can think of plus I'm flying my brother in so it should be fun. I'm trying to find a cam angle sensor off the primera as far as I know I'm going to have to find that in Japan. Hopefully my Haltec will be good I was going to go with Electromotive at first and may still roll with that.
I also need to focus on my safety concerns as well. Once again thank you dude.
The VE will bolt up to a FWD SR20DE transmission, the same probably will not be true for the RWD SR20DE trans.
Also the intake manifold will be pointing the wrong way, the throttle body will be pointing at the firewall.
As Dudeman said, you need to search. You are going to find that this is a unique swap, and you're not going to find everything you need by searching. I hope you have good mechanical skills, as this swap will take some figuring to get running properly.
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Hmmmm......I forgot to mention that my 510 is RWD. I guess I just assumed like an ass that everyone knew that, sorry. Custom intake manifold and headers will be in the works. The only thing that we are worried about is the RWD SR20DE tranny fitting to the SR20VE. Like I said before I always have the option of the head swap out. I'm NOT giving up on this project. =)
Hmmmm......I forgot to mention that my 510 is RWD. I guess I just assumed like an ass that everyone knew that, sorry. Custom intake manifold and headers will be in the works. The only thing that we are worried about is the RWD SR20DE tranny fitting to the SR20VE. Like I said before I always have the option of the head swap out. I'm NOT giving up on this project. =)
the tranny will not be an issue. but you will have to use a CAS and ditch the distributor for lack of clearence...
sounds like a sweet project btw. im trying to talk a friend locally around here into a ve instead of the det hes planning on putting into his 510.
sigh, thats completely wrong. rwd trans DOES NOT BOLT UP WITH NO PROBLEMS....THERES A BIG PROBLEM....MAAAAAYBE HALF THE BOLTS LINE UP...
The swap is possible with custom manifolding and ignition, i also made a solenoid relocation plate so i could mount it remotely, so its not on the back of the head.
First I'm drunk back from the bar. So please forgive me if I sound jerkylol, This swap had been done with the tranny from a SR20DE to a SR20VE.
I'm not a motor swap guru but never the less I've have been researching this for 6 months. It has been done in Japan so how did they do it? Cory says that the tranny will not be an issue but...Lunar says it will be? My motors are coming this week so I will def... find out for sure, same block so why would the tranny be a problem? You guys are great period so teach me what you know...thanks
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Rwd and FWD/AWD bellhouse bolt patterns are totally diff. They have bigger flywheels use different starters and the RWD input shaft is 24 spline whereas the FWD is 18. u will have to mount a VE head to a RWD SR20 block
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In the pics with the red 1200 that Dimus has put on this page that looks like a whole VE motor RWD not just the head on the DE. I'll be honest with you all, the guys that are saying the tranny swap can not be done really sound like they know what their talking about. Um...by the way how hard is the head swap if that's my only choice, I'm talking on a hard scale of 1-10 and 3 being 1 day of labor and 7 being 2-4 days? I hope that made sense!!
In the pics with the red 1200 that Dimus has put on this page that looks like a whole VE motor RWD not just the head on the DE. I'll be honest with you all, the guys that are saying the tranny swap can not be done really sound like they know what their talking about. Um...by the way how hard is the head swap if that's my only choice, I'm talking on a hard scale of 1-10 and 3 being 1 day of labor and 7 being 2-4 days? I hope that made sense!!
I am going to say it is at least a 7, but that could be wrong depending on your experience. There are always unpredictable problems though with things like this.
Here is a good writeup on how to put the VE head on a DE block, though it is for FWD to FWD, not FWD to RWD, it is the same basic concept:
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sr20ve510 I have FWD to L Series transmission adapters for sale at $295 plus shipping. This will adapt the VE engine to the original 510 transmission. Here is a link to the original group buy. http://tinyurl.com/2m5be6
Lots of info in that link. Also you will either need to modify the firewall or relocate the solenoids like Luna240Z did. The distributor will also require clearance. I would suggest using a CAS from a Sr20VE 20V engine. This will reduce the fire wall modificatton needed.
How is there even any doubt, i posted a picture... Thats a FWD tranny plate on a RWD transmission.
I used to think it would fit too, until i tried it myself.
Any RWD VE is a headswap. You can waste your time trying it, but it won't work.
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