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Old 02-12-2006, 11:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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HOW TO: Measure Valve Shim Heights (Pics)

Whenever you have headwork done (install new valves, replace valves, seats, etc.) you must shim the valves to ensure that they are at the same height so that the rocker arm sits flat relative to the cam lobes. If this is not done, the cam will not contact the rocker squarely, leading to vibration and valve train wear. It was recommended to me by Sunbelt Performance Engines, a highly respected race engine builder, that this be done with the head torqued on the motor. The first thing that is needed is a measuring tool. Custom Steel sells a very nice one listed in this thread:
http://www.sr20forum.com/custom-steel/135794-cs-valve-shim-measuring-tool-serious-engine-builders.html
This item is very robust and should be a bit more accurate than the setup I used, which is probably a bit cheaper but you get what you pay for. Custom Steel's unit was not available when I started this project.
These are the parts: An HVLA lower shell with a 9/16 nut welded to the top (courtesy of Matt Kessler of Kessler Engineering,) a 6" long 9/16 bolt with a long shank, a measuring stand rod and a depth guage that reads to .001" (you can estimate the last .0001")


This is what it looks like assembled:


Next, measure all of your guides for thickness. The FSM says to use new guides, but I reused mine.


Now measure all of your shims. I have a couple of spare motors, so I had what I thought was a pretty good selection.


Lay out all of the guides and shims on a piece of graph paper, organizing them by thickness. As you can see, there are 17 different thicknesses of shims, from .1102" to .1260" in increments of .001". The guides are all supposed to be of the same height, but I had one that was .001" shorter than the rest. This picture shows my leftovers, but was fairly representative of the full original set. I had to use the flat side of a grinding wheel, followed by 2 grits of sandpaper to smooth it back out to get some of the shim heights I needed. For the shims I ground down myself, I made sure to only do one side and that side went modified side down towards the valve.


Now measure the heights of the valves without the guides or shims. Turn the graduated face of the dial to zero out the height of the first valve.


Now measure the second valve. The difference in height will be made up by using differing shim thicknesses. This one is .003" higher than the other, so I put a shim that was .003" shorter than the guide that went on the first valve to even things out.


Now to make sure that everything came out correct, measure the final heights of the guide and shim topped valves. The FSM says to pull back gently on the stand portion of the measuring tool to take up any slop. The problem that I had with this method is that the harder you pull at the top of the rod or bolt, the more it bends and the more the reading changes. The true slop is generated due to the difference in the OD of the HVLA and the ID of the bore in which it sits. So, I just pushed down and back with my thumb at the top of the HVLA and no matter how hard I pushed, the reading on the dial stayed the same once the initial slack was taken up.
Dial zeroed out on the right valve:


Dial is still at zero on the left valve:


Now I'm ready to install the rockers and cams and finally put the motor back in the car!
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Old 04-19-2009, 06:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Do all the rockers have to indicate 0 across all 4 cylinders? Or is it just a matter of getting each individual rocker flat?
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Do all the rockers have to indicate 0 across all 4 cylinders? Or is it just a matter of getting each individual rocker flat?
It's just a matter of getting each rocker flat. The HVLAs take care of keeping the rockers at the same height / clearance relative to the cam.
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hey one quick noob question...does this same principal aplay to the solid pivot lash killers like from Tomei, or does this require a diferent way of measuring for zise?
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Hey NX2KTPR, great write-up.

I have an S14 Blacktop and I have a quick question.
I broke a rocker on the exhaust cam of cylinder #4 a few weeks ago and ended up machining and heat treating a retainer and shim to replace the ones on those valves.

I now need to order a new set, and need just a little guidance.
In this link, there's a drop-down menu for 2.600mm / 2.620mm / 2.640mm / etc. etc.

Do you know which one that I need to order, or how I can find out?
Thanks.

http://www.frsport.com/SR20DET-Valve...c_p_12688.html

http://www.frsport.com/SR20DET-Valve...c_p_12687.html
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hey one quick noob question...does this same principal aplay to the solid pivot lash killers like from Tomei, or does this require a diferent way of measuring for zise?
I would assume so, but I've never done it so I can't say for certain.
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Hey NX2KTPR, great write-up.

I have an S14 Blacktop and I have a quick question.
I broke a rocker on the exhaust cam of cylinder #4 a few weeks ago and ended up machining and heat treating a retainer and shim to replace the ones on those valves.

I now need to order a new set, and need just a little guidance.
In this link, there's a drop-down menu for 2.600mm / 2.620mm / 2.640mm / etc. etc.

Do you know which one that I need to order, or how I can find out?
Thanks.

http://www.frsport.com/SR20DET-Valve...c_p_12688.html

http://www.frsport.com/SR20DET-Valve...c_p_12687.html
Measure the height of the valve with the guide in place (all of the guides are the same height), then measure the height of the other valve without a guide or shim in place and subtract that amount from the height of the valve with the guide in place. The result is the height of the shim you need to order.
Measure each three times and order once...

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Old 07-03-2009, 01:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Good write up. Found it through a google search.

Figured I would post my pdf manual for this service too as an added help.

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http://www.rpsport.net/support/vsht/instructions.pdf
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thank you for posting this.
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