The JDM/USDM Roller Rocker SR20DE Info Thread - Page 8 - SR20 Forum
Nissan SR20 Forum Nissan SR20 Forum Header Right
HomeForumGalleryClassifiedsAbout UsAdvertiseContact Us

Welcome to the SR20 Forum forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   SR20 Forum > What's New > Technical Information Library



Sr20Forum.com is the premier Nissan SR20 Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 07-27-2008, 03:45 PM   #141 (permalink)
working on it
 
swiss's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: TN

Feedback Score: 27 reviews
Well, add PSC Metals to the Roller Rocker registry. I scrapped my motor on Friday. Metal prices are great right now. I got $67 for the aluminum and $14 for the mixed metals. It's a lot of work separating the aluminum, though.
swiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 07-27-2008, 11:22 PM   #142 (permalink)
like a stray puppy

 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Nashville, TN

Feedback Score: 11 reviews
did you keep a valve cover It's my fault
__________________
1993 NX2000: Weekend fun car
1990 Accord: New to me Daily Driver


Octave236 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2008, 09:28 PM   #143 (permalink)
working on it
 
swiss's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: TN

Feedback Score: 27 reviews
Yeah, the VC was from a "spraybar" motor anyhow. It even made a brief cameo on the new setup while I got my new VC re-re-coated:

swiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2008, 07:17 AM   #144 (permalink)
Trouble Maker

 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Northern Va

Feedback Score: 2 reviews
Just do I am clear, to swap a RR motor for a USDM DE I need to make the following adjustments

B15 oil filter
Swap over the intake
Swap over some misc brackets
Mod the PCV hose to fit the RR valve cover.

I am not sure about the water pump. Will the USDM water pump fit?
What about the dist. Do I swap that over too?

Am I missing anything else?
__________________
Enjoy,
Bill
Half-Fast Motorsports

Last edited by Scca_Ev; 07-30-2008 at 07:18 AM.
Scca_Ev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2008, 11:19 PM   #145 (permalink)
working on it
 
swiss's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: TN

Feedback Score: 27 reviews
Yeah, use your stock dizzy. I'm 99% sure the water pump is the same, but you might check with Greg V to be sure. As for the other stuff, you have some options. You can use your DE valve cover rather than reroute the PCV line. You can also use either oil filter housing. The RR would use the B15 filter on the bottom of the back of the engine, the B14 one would of course keep the current location and filter.
swiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2008, 08:42 AM   #146 (permalink)
Trouble Maker

 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Northern Va

Feedback Score: 2 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by swiss View Post
Yeah, use your stock dizzy. I'm 99% sure the water pump is the same, but you might check with Greg V to be sure. As for the other stuff, you have some options. You can use your DE valve cover rather than reroute the PCV line. You can also use either oil filter housing. The RR would use the B15 filter on the bottom of the back of the engine, the B14 one would of course keep the current location and filter.
Thanks Swiss.. I guess that would mean I need an oil filter housing gasket..

If this new motor is just like the 2000+ 2.0, then the oil filter and water pump are the same according to the parts guides..
Scca_Ev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2008, 08:27 PM   #147 (permalink)
Trouble Maker

 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Northern Va

Feedback Score: 2 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by swiss View Post
Yeah, use your stock dizzy. I'm 99% sure the water pump is the same, but you might check with Greg V to be sure. As for the other stuff, you have some options. You can use your DE valve cover rather than reroute the PCV line. You can also use either oil filter housing. The RR would use the B15 filter on the bottom of the back of the engine, the B14 one would of course keep the current location and filter.
Well, I have completed the swap and thought I would add some of my findings for other's that come behind.

Swap was a 96 SR20 to a jap spec roller rocker motor.

Valve cover from the 96 engine will NOT fit. It's too short, had to use RR valve cover.
Right engine mount bracket had to be swapped over from original motor
I used original intake, starter, flywheel, and dist. Installed US spec header, fit fine.
RR Low mount oil filter and oil pan fit fine as did the P/S and alt brackets.

For my swap I removed the EGR and Evap as it's not an on road car.

The only real problem I had was it won't start.... It appears there is a fuel issue. It will run with some carb cleaner, but not otherwise.

I have a couple of questions. Does the fuel feed line go to the top or bottom connector on the intake.

I also think I screwed the pooch when I removed the evap. I am not sure which is the fuel return line and which is the evap line.

Would someone be willing to look at their car and tell me what fuel line goes where and what line the fuel return line connects to on the fire wall?
Scca_Ev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2008, 09:07 PM   #148 (permalink)
working on it
 
swiss's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: TN

Feedback Score: 27 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scca_Ev View Post
Valve cover from the 96 engine will NOT fit. It's too short, had to use RR valve cover.
Sorry, didn't mean to lead you astray. Mine was running a DE cover from the previous owner. Maybe he modified something to make it fit.





Quote:
Originally Posted by Scca_Ev View Post
Does the fuel feed line go to the top or bottom connector on the intake.

I also think I screwed the pooch when I removed the evap. I am not sure which is the fuel return line and which is the evap line.

Would someone be willing to look at their car and tell me what fuel line goes where and what line the fuel return line connects to on the fire wall?
The feedline goes from the fuel filter to the rail itself. The return line exits from the fuel pressure regulator.

Not sure off the top of my head on the evap line.
swiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2008, 08:23 AM   #149 (permalink)
Trouble Maker

 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Northern Va

Feedback Score: 2 reviews
Thanks for the assist swiss..

I found the problem. It seems a Bosch ABS unit will not run the engine

All I read in the forums said no two connectors are alike so I didn't pay close enough attention to the fact the ECU and ABS connectors are identical and right next to each other (duh)

The engine runs and all is well..

One last question. I installed a real coolent temp gauge. I have seen the adapter that goes between the upper coolant inlet and the hose which is the outlet from the radiator. Wouldn't it be better to measure the engine temp coming out of the engine, not going into the engine?
Scca_Ev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2008, 08:33 PM   #150 (permalink)
jp
SE-R Nut

 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Chile

Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Just to update some of the dynos... From a JDM p11 2j2 motor.

Dyno stock p11 timing at 13 (motor with more than 200.000-km)


Dyno-2 timing at 17


Dyno-3 timing at 19


Dyno-4 Timing at 20


Dyno-5 timing at 20 plus tuneup( bkr6e gaped at 1,1mm , tps at 0.45 volt ,new rotor , new air filter, MAF reground)


Dyno-6 timing at 20 Hotshot cai ,ground kit,3 inchs exhaust


Dyno-7 JWT ecu,cams s3r,ur pullies,Hotshot cai,hotshot header gen 3,apexi s-afc2 ,apexi itc(timing)2,25 inch crush bent exhaust wrx muffler.


Dyno-8 p11 stock vs p11 with cai,timing,exhaust


Turbo p11
t28 from gti-r
14lbs
3 exhaust
2,25 gtir. jpipe
evo 7 fmic
440 injectors
afc2
itc
avc-r


t28 vs 3071r .86 trim 90 same setup just turbo change... same boost 10lbs both turbos


12lbs 3071r
changes from above dyno
3 dp , 3.5 exhaust
big fmic
b13 ecu 7500 rpm stock everything else



This is another setup sc61 turbo plus many things .. still Stock RR motor

link
http://www.sr20forum.com/turbo/20245...-bigturbo.html

360 whp at 14,5lbs


After that I put a pt67 and boost to 29lbs... *** car puts down over 500whp on a STOCK RR motor...

Now Im under new development of a new setup wich will include... s3r cams.. springs and retainers.. custom made intake manifold .equal leg exhaust manifold.. etc..
I will dyno this setup at 14lbs ... then Im going to forge te RR motor
Hope this helps some.
Good luck people-
__________________
2001 Nissan Primera GX
560whp at 18lbs Stock VE-t motor.
Chile

Last edited by jp; 08-18-2008 at 12:24 PM.
jp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2008, 08:45 PM   #151 (permalink)
Deviled Egg!
 
XxToKeSxX's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ohi-hoe

Feedback Score: 44 reviews
I love you JP... Way to represent strong... I had lost these pictures of your dyno's. They are very inspiring.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jp View Post
Just to update some of the dynos... From a JDM p11 2j2 motor.

Dyno stok p11 timing at 13 (motor with more than 200.000-km)


Dyno-2 timing at 17


Dyno-3 timing at 19

Dyno-4 Timing at 20


Dyno-5 timing at 20 plus tuneup( bkr6e gaped at 1,1mm , tps at 0.45 volt ,new rotor , new air filter, MAF reground)


Dyno-6 timing a 20 Hotshot cai ,ground kit,3 inchs exhaust


Dyno-7 JWT ecu,lcams s3r,ur pullies,Hotshot cai,hotshot header gen 3,apexi s-afc2 ,apexi itc(timing)2,25 inch crush bent exhaust wrx muffler.


Dyno-8 p11 stock vs p11 with cai,timing,exhaust


Turbo p11
t28 from gti-r
14lbs
3 exhaust
2,25 gtir. jpipe
evo 7 fmic
440 injectors
afc2
itc
avc-r


t28 vs 3071r .86 trim 90 same setup just turbo change... same boost 10lbs both turbos


12lbs 3071r
changes from above dyno
3 dp , 3.5 exhaust
big fmic
b13 ecu 7500 rpm stock everything else



This is another setup sc61 turbo plus many things .. still Stock RR motor

link
http://www.sr20forum.com/turbo/20245...-bigturbo.html

360 whp at 14,5lbs


After that I put a pt67 and boost to 29lbs... *** car puts down over 500whp on a STOCK RR motor...

Now Im under development of a new setup wich will include... s3r cams.. springs and retainers.. custom made intake manifold .equal leg exhaust manifold.. etc..
I will dyno si setup at 14lbs ... than Im going to forge te RR motor
Hope this helps some.
Good luck people-
__________________
1993 B13 SE-R!!!! | SR20VE Daily
1996 D21 4x4!!!!!!! | KA24E Bike Hauler
1998 200sx SE-R | SR20DE S3R'd For Sale!!!!
1991 NX-TuRBO | SR20DET Parted Out
1993 NX2000!!!!!!!! | SR20DE Sold
1993 B13 SE-R!!!! | SR20DET Parted Out
1995 240sx BaSe | VQ30DET Sold
1991 240sx SE!!!!! | KA24DE Sold

Shift_Buy Broken & Build...
XxToKeSxX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2008, 09:20 PM   #152 (permalink)
jp
SE-R Nut

 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Chile

Feedback Score: 0 reviews
naa man.. THANKS to you for this thread.. I just put my 2 cents...
cheers
jp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2008, 03:46 PM   #153 (permalink)
SE-R Geek / Nissan Tech

 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bend, OR

Feedback Score: 3 reviews
does anybody know the stock RR injector flow rating?

ya... i searched. and skimmed over this whole thread and the injector thread. couldnt find it.
__________________
92 SE-R Autocrosser "BRE" tribute

71 MGB GT "The Great Pumpkin"

07 Frontier SE Nismo

Last edited by BRE92SER; 08-17-2008 at 03:49 PM.
BRE92SER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2008, 05:45 PM   #154 (permalink)
Deviled Egg!
 
XxToKeSxX's Avatar

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ohi-hoe

Feedback Score: 44 reviews
The JDM's use the same 259cc's as the regular DE's... nothing special. I believe the b15s use a little larger top feed if I'm not mistaken.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BRE92SER View Post
does anybody know the stock RR injector flow rating?

ya... i searched. and skimmed over this whole thread and the injector thread. couldnt find it.
XxToKeSxX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2008, 02:13 AM   #155 (permalink)
SE-R Geek / Nissan Tech

 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bend, OR

Feedback Score: 3 reviews
yeah its the USDM ones im interested in. im working on trying a GTI-R manifold on my highport (already test fitted), but i need topfeed injectors that are somewhere close to the same flow rate as the stockers (259)

i read on the QR forums that the SPEC-V ones are in the low 300's, so i might try those.
BRE92SER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2008, 08:00 PM   #156 (permalink)
SE-R Newbie

 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Lauderdale east side

Feedback Score: 0 reviews
dudes....i have the new 00-01 JDM RR and my question is, on the outlaw engineering site for the thermoblock spacers, it says that the spacers are for the 00-01 sentra SE (which i know is a RR as well) but can i use the spacers for the usdm manifold on my JDM one?? someone please reply because i want to order asap.
sohcvtec06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2008, 10:26 AM   #157 (permalink)
Trouble Maker

 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Northern Va

Feedback Score: 2 reviews
I am not sure what these spacers are, but I do know that the JDM intake gasket is the same as the USDM gasket.
Scca_Ev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 08:53 PM   #158 (permalink)
jp
SE-R Nut

 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Chile

Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Some more data from a stock p11....

stock p11 timing at 12.






Last edited by jp; 09-05-2008 at 07:28 PM.
jp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2008, 02:21 AM   #159 (permalink)
SR20DiEhardT

 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: AB

Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Can a jdm rr engine interchange pistons with a bluebird engine, need some 8.5 cr pistons for my turbo conversion. I've seen after market forged pistons around that will work but thought nissan pistons would be cheaper and suffice for a goal of 350ish whp. Been looking around but nothing solid on the information being directly related to a rr.
TonyB15_SR20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2011, 05:28 PM   #160 (permalink)
SE-R Newbie

 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: UK

Feedback Score: 0 reviews
great thread! thanks!
sarb is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  SR20 Forum > What's New > Technical Information Library


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:34 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
© The SR20 Forum - Content from this site may not be used without permission