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HOW TO: Wire up your Apex Super AFC

How to wire a SAFC
Im gonna try my best to help you by keeping it short and simple but to the point.


You will need a wiring diagram FSM or the one that came with the SAFC.

SAFC *******************************ECU
Red wire (IG Power)***** to*** Orange/Blue stripe
Green wire (RPM Signal)** to*** Blue/Black stripe
Grey wire (Throttle Signal)*to***White wire (not same)
Brown wire (Ground 1)*** to***White wire (same)
Black wire (Ground 2)**** to***White wire (same) 1 cm apart Blue wire = Not used
Pink wire = Not used
There is one more wire that isn't used to I think can't remember the color.

NOTE: (ECU MAF signal wire) Cut the Orange wire in half this is the MAF signal wire that will be running through the SAFC.

Yellow wire (MAF Output)* to***Orange wire connect to ECU side
White wire (MAF Input)*** to**Orange wire connect to MAF side

ALL CONNECTIONS ARE DONE AT THE ECU CLOSEST TO THE PIN AS REASONABLE POSSIBLE BUT NOT TO CLOSE MAYBE 2 to 2.5 INCHES AWAY FROM CONNECTOR (LEAVE ROOM FOR EROR).

1) Disconnect your battery.

2) Ground the SAFC now pay attention here because you can cause damage to the unit if grounds are improperly grounded.

a) There are 2 ground wires:
**Brown wire
**and
**Black wire
It is impairitive to connect the Brown wire closest to the ECU followed by the Black wire 1 cm thereafter the Brown wire.

3) Connect the (Red wire) to the appropriate wire on the ECU.

4) Connect the (Green wire) to the appropriate wire on the ECU.

5) Connect the (Grey wire) to the appropriate wire on the ECU.

6) Connect the (Yellow wire) to the appropriate wire on the ECU.
7) Connect the (White wire) to the appropriate wire on the ECU.

8) (Blue wire) is not used.

9) )Pink wire) is not used.

(9) Take your time and do it right.

If you have the manuel refer to that also I just did this because sometimes it easier to understand when broken down in parts.

91-94 B13 Sentra SE-R N3-a wiring diagram

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Apex SAFC II

B13 ECU PINOUT


B14 ECU PINOUT




B13


B14 MODIFIED
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This should also work for you B14 guys....


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thanks.... i'll be searching for this post in a month or 2
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Is this good for all nissans or is it for a particular one? sentra, 200sx, g20, nx2k? Other than that thanks for the info.....
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It is for the B13 Sentra or any other Nissan that uses N3-a wiring scheme.
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Thanks Charlie..my manual is in Japanese! this came in handy!!

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Few tips:

1) Like charlie says, before you start wiring anything run a ECU diagnostic test to make sure everything is in working order. If you do not run one and you get errors after you install you don't know if its from the install or things that were previously messed up.

2) If your going to be using wire taps, which i encourage. On the sensative wiress such as the Orange Air Sensor or MAF wire you should not use the little taps. They do not penetrate the plastic enough to get a good reading and your car may get stuck in LIMP MODE.

3) Also, on the RPM wire, you should not use the taps unless you make it extremly tight. Failure to do this will result in your engine revs being displayed falsly and spiking. If you try tuning with wrong revs being displayed you could be tuning at the wrong RPM points.

Also, it is imparatve that you check...double check and get your mom to check This will eliminate room for error and Take Your Time!

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...............Yes, and good point on the MAF and rpm wires.
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LoL charlie NOW YOU PUT THE PINK WIRE! The other wire I believe is the orange one coming from the s-afc.

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No way in hell would I use wire taps for any of these wires. If you want to do this right, solder. I wouldn't use wire taps to install a stereo, let alone mess with wires that are used to control the engine, yes it takes longer, but is the extra 30minutes worth knowing you aren't going to ruin an ECU/Engine?

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LoL charlie NOW YOU PUT THE PINK WIRE! The other wire I believe is the orange one coming from the s-afc.

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You like that huh......lol............................hey I figure anyone following these instructions would just assume the wires not used, ummm just don't use them.
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What about the wiring diagram for a Roller Rocker Ecu, is there one at all?

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I have a problem concerning the S-AFC installation. Where the air flow wire is supposed to be, there's a blank in the plug (no metal pin).

Could somebody give me the colors of the wires for the power, rev, air flow, ground, etc?

There's a blanck for the rev too...

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Nevermind, I figured it all out!

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Great writeup, it will come in handy if i ever get an safc. I love having stuff like this to come to.

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It was a newbie error that would have happend only to me. When you look at the S-AFC diagram with the ECU pin-out, take the harness beside it and the way the diagram is made is like if you'd look at the harnes plug from the wire side, not the blue side where the ECU pins enter.

That's why there was "missing" wires. Hopefully they were missing, imagine hooking everything up and nothing working.

But anyway everything worked up to this morning, but I drove it for 15 km and the engine stalled. I'll check that tonight.

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The orange wire is not used!

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ok, I need some help on my b14 wiring a s-afc II, I used my fsm to try and figure out the wires. Here is what i came up with. I would just like to make sure with someone who has done a b14 still obd-II ecu that these are correct. ill post the s-afc wires and the ecu wires i found.


S-AFC....................to......................... ...........ECU
Red wire (power supply) to Pin 38 color BLACK/RED STRIPE(Ignition switch)
Green wire (rpm signal) to pin 3 color BLUE/ORANGE STRIPE (Tachometer)
Purple wire (knock signal) to pin 54 color WHITE (knock Sensor)
Gray wire (throttle signal) to pin 33 color GRAY (throttle position sensor)
Brown wire (ground) to pin 43 color BLACK *****(engine ground)
Black wire (ground) to pin 43 color BLACK ***** (engine ground)
Yellow wire (mafs output) to pin 47 ORANGE (MAFS)
White wire (mafs input) to pin 47 ORANGE (MAFS)

***** Im not sure about the grounds because the ecm has about 6 total ground wires but the FSM says to use this pin to probe (-) tester probe when measuring. All the other grounds just say "engine ground"

Can anyone confirm these are the correct wires to tap on a b14 obd-II ecu? Please help asap. Thanks

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just figure out which way the picture is situated as opposed to your harness connector.

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