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Old 06-26-2006, 02:26 AM   #61 (permalink)
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When I had plugs left over, I just used some common sense to splice stuff together. If the colors on the wires matched, they got spliced together. If two plugs had all thicker black ground wires, I just clip'd the plugs and spliced em. Other then that, I left everything else dangling.
I'm running into this now w/ my brother's car; 92 NX2000 front clip going into a 98 XE... will try the above; I also have an extra harness from the NX motor and an extra harness on the b14 chassis on the accessory (passenger side) fuse panel by the windshield washer fill.

EDIT: Here's what I have (colors are shown with pins facing towards point of view; MAIN COLOR/STRIPE COLOR format) -

chassis harness, driver's side, above transmission, above tranmission, 8 pin:
| NONE | YEL/GRN | YEL | NONE |
| BLK | GRN/WHT | YEL/GRN | YEL/BLK |

SR20 harness, driver's side, above transmission by subframe, 8 pin:
| GRN/ORG | YEL | GRN/WHT | BLK |
| PUR/WHT | RED | RED/YEL | PNK/BLU |

There is a set of harnesses from the chassis and the SR20 that do connect at this location. The above two, although both 8-pin, do NOT connect; not many common colors and I'm not sure if I want to start splicing together those that are common; any suggestions?.

SR20 harness, driver's side, above transmission by subframe, 2 pin:
| RED/BLK | BLK/RED |

I have no idea what the above would go to...

SR20 harness, passenger's side, relay pack, 2 pin:
| RED/BLK | BLK/RED |

I have no idea what the above would go to...

chassis harness, passenger side, relay pack, passenger motor mount area, 3pin:
| YEL/RED | BLU/RED | RED/BLK |

SR20 harness, passenger side, relay pack, passenger motor mount area, 3pin:
| YEL/RED| WHT | YEL/BLK |

There are two sets of harnesses from the chassis and the SR20 that do connect at this location. The above two, although both 3-pin, do NOT connect; not many common colors and I'm not sure if I want to start splicing together those that are common; any suggestions?.

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Old 06-27-2006, 11:55 AM   #62 (permalink)
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k.... my problem is that I'm wiring a b13 harness into a b14 chassis that came with the GA16... a few guys from the boards suggested searching since there's probably countless members who have put JDM DETs in b14s. Wish work wasn't so damm busy today.

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Old 06-28-2006, 12:25 AM   #63 (permalink)
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k.... my problem is that I'm wiring a b13 harness into a b14 chassis that came with the GA16... a few guys from the boards suggested searching since there's probably countless members who have put JDM DETs in b14s. Wish work wasn't so damm busy today.
Searching on this forum isn't always as easy as most people on here make it out to be. The info is scattered and every other posts only contains tidbits of info that solve a particular problem that may or may not relate close enough to your own.

Anyway, enough with that. We still have the donor car right? Would transferring the fuse box, harnesses, and etc from the b13 donor into the b14 be less of a hassle than splicing wires from the b14 body to mate with the b13 engine? I imagine that would be the most complete way to ensure everything gets wired correctly.
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Old 06-29-2006, 08:28 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Searching on this forum isn't always as easy as most people on here make it out to be. The info is scattered and every other posts only contains tidbits of info that solve a particular problem that may or may not relate close enough to your own.

Anyway, enough with that. We still have the donor car right? Would transferring the fuse box, harnesses, and etc from the b13 donor into the b14 be less of a hassle than splicing wires from the b14 body to mate with the b13 engine? I imagine that would be the most complete way to ensure everything gets wired correctly.
I agree w/ what you said in he 1st post; although ppl are pretty helpful here if you start shooting some PMs around. For the sake of reliability, we're doing what you suggested in the 2nd paragraph.
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Old 07-06-2006, 10:35 AM   #65 (permalink)
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95-97 ser engine harness will hook up to 95-97 GA's but not 98-99, nissan went crazy...so its either get 98-99 ser engine harness for 98-99 car or 95-97 interior harness to match 95-97 engine harness in a 98-99 car.
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:36 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Can I use G20 Axles for this swap as well?
What year? W/O Abs? I have a 5spd SE-R Transmission with LSD
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Old 08-01-2006, 08:36 AM   #67 (permalink)
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not if your using a b13/b14.....hubs are different
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:21 AM   #68 (permalink)
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not if your using a b13/b14.....hubs are different
Its a bluebird engine...which axles can I use for that?
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Old 08-03-2006, 10:51 AM   #69 (permalink)
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oh boy...

axels dont go into your engine...there in your tranny there for it depends on the tranny you have... b13/b14 chassis you can get 91-97 axels (lsd) 98-99 (non lsd) for a ser tranny....if you have a g20 you need to find g20 lsd axels....or non lsd whatever you have.
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Old 08-03-2006, 11:50 AM   #70 (permalink)
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axels dont go into your engine...there in your tranny there for it depends on the tranny you have... b13/b14 chassis you can get 91-97 axels (lsd) 98-99 (non lsd) for a ser tranny....if you have a g20 you need to find g20 lsd axels....or non lsd whatever you have.

^Dreamer are all the 98-99 axles non lsd? I don't believe they made the B13 tranny in (NON LSD), so wouldn't all the axles from 91-97 be LSD EXCLUDING the SR20 autos from this statement. I know the G20's are different period.

Did they make B14 in LSD and NON LSD? So the B14 would have either or and you would have to match up the axles with the tranny and vice-verser for the axles?

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Old 08-03-2006, 12:03 PM   #71 (permalink)
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^Dreamer are all the 98-99 axles non lsd? I don't believe they made the B13 tranny in (NON LSD), so wouldn't all the axles from 91-97 be LSD EXCLUDING the SR20 autos from this statement. I know the G20's are different period.

Did they make B14 in LSD and NON LSD? So the B14 would have either or and you would have to match up the axles with the tranny and vice-verser for the axles?

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Im pretty sure the 98-99 b14 trannys were non lsd....cause the 98 200sx was non lsd and the 98-99 SE-L were non lsd. Yes all the axels for (91-97) sr20de tranny are lsd only in the b13/b14 trim, g20's had lsd and non lsd (iirc)

2nd question - Yes, its all determined by the hump and the big seal on the driver side. Small is usually non lsd, big is lsd.


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Old 08-03-2006, 12:14 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Im pretty sure the 98-99 b14 trannys were non lsd....cause the 98 200sx was non lsd and the 98-99 SE-L were non lsd. Yes all the axels for (91-97) sr20de tranny are lsd only in the b13/b14 trim, g20's had lsd and non lsd (iirc)

2nd question - Yes, its all determined by the hump and the big seal on the driver side. Small is usually non lsd, big is lsd.


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^I don't know why they made NON LSD in the first place? What benefits do you get from one wheel turing (VS) two turning at one time? This means that SE-R's with NON LSD making more HP's than SE-R's with LSD would likely to LOOSE to SE-R's with less HP's. I wonder what max win / loose gap would be on this theory.

I guess it would matter if it was N/A vs Turbo, but N/A vs N/A or Turbo vs Turbo would be interesting.

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Old 08-03-2006, 02:44 PM   #73 (permalink)
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^I don't know why they made NON LSD in the first place? What benefits do you get from one wheel turing (VS) two turning at one time? This means that SE-R's with NON LSD making more HP's than SE-R's with LSD would likely to LOOSE to SE-R's with less HP's. I wonder what max win / loose gap would be on this theory.

I guess it would matter if it was N/A vs Turbo, but N/A vs N/A or Turbo vs Turbo would be interesting.

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It would all depend on the HP numbers. LSD will help you in many situations however if hp numbers are around the same and you are doing a rolling start, it would come down to the drivers. Same even goes for a dead stop HP/NONLSD/LSD < Driver
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:02 PM   #74 (permalink)
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oh boy...

axels dont go into your engine...there in your tranny there for it depends on the tranny you have... b13/b14 chassis you can get 91-97 axels (lsd) 98-99 (non lsd) for a ser tranny....if you have a g20 you need to find g20 lsd axels....or non lsd whatever you have.
Sorry...I meant to add that I have a 92 or 93 Tranny off an SE-R. I'm not THAT much of a newb :p Just wasn't thinking when I responded.
Thanks for the info
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Old 08-04-2006, 12:26 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Sorry...I meant to add that I have a 92 or 93 Tranny off an SE-R. I'm not THAT much of a newb :p Just wasn't thinking when I responded.
Thanks for the info
what car is the swap going into??? that will help alot...
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Old 08-04-2006, 12:36 PM   #76 (permalink)
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It would all depend on the HP numbers. LSD will help you in many situations however if hp numbers are around the same and you are doing a rolling start, it would come down to the drivers. Same even goes for a dead stop HP/NONLSD/LSD < Driver

I meant to put BASED ON THE HP's............The driver would have a lot to do with it though , but a NON LSD making more than a LSD with the same setup N/A vs N/A or DET vs DET I was trying to compare. I wouldn't ge a NON LSD tranny.

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Old 08-04-2006, 03:05 PM   #77 (permalink)
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associated swap question(s):
(for a BB SR20DET - will be run at stock setting - w/5spd going into a B13)
what fuel pump is needed?
what fuel consumption when driven conservatively?
for the TMIC, what size hood scoop needed and how to deal with winter slush, snow etc.
any special battery rerquirements?
need special clutch?
anyone run these in frigid Northern winters?

Thanks for info. I absorb all DET like Tetsuo absorbed Tokyo, yo. Just give me a few weeks to read all this.
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Old 08-04-2006, 05:14 PM   #78 (permalink)
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i would at least get a walbro 255 pump with some type of fpr to set it.
DOnt know about milage if thats what your talking about.
I know some that run without a scoop and are fine but f you want one make a blocker for it

I would get a 2001 se clutch and ACT HD PP for the clutch....maybe a flywheel but i heard act clutches dont like a flywheel. just hear say though
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Old 08-05-2006, 01:07 PM   #79 (permalink)
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what car is the swap going into??? that will help alot...
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Old 09-06-2006, 12:13 AM   #80 (permalink)
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Here's My story.
I got a 1996 Nissan 200sx SE. With its Weak ass 1.6.

- I found an engine. A sr20det bluebird engine with turbo to be exact. I am getting the engine COMPLETE with manifold, starter, etc. Also with the engine I am recieving the tranny and an ECU. The guy I am buying the engine from said that he is also throwing in the harness.
Exactly whatelse would I need to make the swap a success?
And where could I go to buy this

is http://www.jgycustoms.com/serg20/conversion.htm a good spot?

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