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Old 02-11-2007, 06:53 PM   #21 (permalink)
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^if u think that cool wait till u see the front p10 mount that he made
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Old 02-11-2007, 07:05 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Tbags are you running the stock Avenir Piping and intercooler? If so did it fit perfectly or without alot of modding?
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Old 02-11-2007, 07:10 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Tbags are you running the stock Avenir Piping and intercooler? If so did it fit perfectly or without alot of modding?
i have done 2 aveniers swap before..one on a b13 and the other a p-10
on the b13 it actually bolted right up..u will have to make a bigger whole on the drivers side (very similar to a reguarl cai install)-no problems so far in the 1.5 years..on the p10 2 of the couplings had to be bought since they were cracked
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Old 02-11-2007, 07:18 PM   #25 (permalink)
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And your running the stock Avenir Intercooler also? If so this is good news!
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Old 02-14-2007, 08:25 PM   #26 (permalink)
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my avenir came as a red top, from what i know the avenir doesn't come with a intercooler
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:21 PM   #27 (permalink)
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All aveniers come with an intercooler and they were factory front mount setups.

U13 Bluebird also had a FMIC but the U12 had a top mount.
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:43 PM   #28 (permalink)
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my avenir came as a red top, from what i know the avenir doesn't come with a intercooler
Pretty much any AWD SR20DET came with a stock intercooler. If you Valve cover is red then most likely you have a Bluebird Motor not an Avenir
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Old 02-15-2007, 12:08 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Pretty much any AWD SR20DET came with a stock intercooler. If you Valve cover is red then most likely you have a Bluebird Motor not an Avenir
no buddy i have an avenir motor and not a bluebird. here in nyc all the jdm places that sells motors here i have seen none of them come with an intercooler.
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Old 02-15-2007, 12:23 AM   #30 (permalink)
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no buddy i have an avenir motor and not a bluebird. here in nyc all the jdm places that sells motors here i have seen none of them come with an intercooler.
LOL I honestly dont really care what motor you have. All I was saying is that if it has a red valve cover then youve probably got a Bluebird. If you checked the block and head numbers and all that and its says Avenir thats great too.

And your talking about looking at a motor in a shop that sells motors pulled out of cars in Japan. Just because they dont have an Intercooler on them doesnt mean that they didnt have one on the car they came from in Japan. Like I said...I cant think of one AWD SR20DET car that DIDNT have an intercooler.
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And your talking about looking at a motor in a shop that sells motors pulled out of cars in Japan. Just because they dont have an Intercooler on them doesnt mean that they didnt have one on the car they came from in Japan. Like I said...I cant think of one AWD SR20DET car that DIDNT have an intercooler.
i'm not saying that they didn't come with one in japan, i was saying that when you buy it at the shop that it doesn't come with it. only the u12 and gti-r's do.
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Old 02-15-2007, 06:42 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Nismo SR20DE: If you read your post #26 which seems to be the reply to post #25, then you can see why it looks like your telling us that the Avenir never came with an intercooler.

It is quite easy to request the factory intercooler from most engine importers.
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Old 02-15-2007, 10:00 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Can you just swap the DE upper oil pan to an avenir?
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No, the blocks have differences and you end up with a gap just below the water pump
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only the bluebirds come with the pancake intercooler on top I did not get one with my w10 and my v/c was silver
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:10 AM   #36 (permalink)
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-u12(bluebird) and rnn14(gtir) have red valve covers and top mount iintercoolers
-n14 turbo number is 14411-54C00 JB
-u12 turbo number is 14411-79E00 JB
-u13(bluebird) has red valve cover and front mount intercooler
-14411-1E000 or 79E00
-w10 avenir come in both black and silver valve covers FMIC as well
-w10 black top shares same turbo p/n as u13 ends with 1e000
-w10 silver top turbo p/n 14411-1E001

now a W11 I have never seen in person yet but I hear they are also both black and silver valve cover. I've seen pics of silver only. Anyways these are the only ball bearing t25s
-w11 turbo p/n 14411-WF500 or WA200

if you wanna know which motor you have check ur p/n which is a silver tag looking from the front passenger side of the motor beneath the heatshield on the exhaust housing
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Old 02-16-2007, 06:39 PM   #37 (permalink)
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The only Ballbearing T25 is the 14411-WF500 part number. Every other t25 is non ball bearing.
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